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Nov 16 2022 05:27am
Alot of players play D2R and use the D2r Trade Threads. Ultimately D2JSP is used by 1000's of players to find, buy, and sell, items. What I am suggesting is that users are given the option to FILTER the trade forums by BOLDED or RED or BOLDED RED Topics.

I also recommend that JSP also considers increasing the price of Bolded, Red, and Bolded Red Topics to: 50fg, 25fg and 100fg Respectively.



This Site suggestion will:

1. Make it easier for players to find high value items.
2. Make it easier for players with "shops" or gg items for their threads to be easier found.
3. sends forum gold back into the site and could be used for various things (S/A or otherwise).

I accept that this was asked previously and refused. However, one of my previous suggestions for filters in the subforums was also rejected and then subsequently applied to the site months later (as a compromise for not having D2r specific sub forums) so I thought there would be no harm in asking for this again.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 16 2022 05:34am
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Nov 16 2022 05:39am
This reduces visibility to newer users learning the ropes and costs are quite hefty. Don't think putting $10 price tag on a feature that's currently 10fg total is going to help anyone and filtering by them would only mean it becomes a pseudo requirement to posting your items so you're not filtered out. Everyone and every item deserves a fair chance at being seen. Big ticket items are usually found through search feature anyway. IMO this is only a detriment to the site.
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Nov 16 2022 05:43am
Quote (CrackerSJ @ Nov 16 2022 11:39am)
This reduces visibility to newer users learning the ropes and costs are quite hefty. Don't think putting $10 price tag on a feature that's currently 10fg total is going to help anyone and filtering by them would only mean it becomes a pseudo requirement to posting your items so you're not filtered out. Everyone and every item deserves a fair chance at being seen. Big ticket items are usually found through search feature anyway. IMO this is only a detriment to the site.


Its a suggestion, and there are 1000's of suggestions, most of which are not agreed to. If it was not accepted years ago or today, or tomorrow, it does not mean that it cant be proposed next year or in 10 years time. I am not dying on a hill for this suggestion, i already died on the hill for D2r specific forums (Trophy Room, Legit Dueling, Low Level Dueling etc). I accept that even if 1000 people voted for this it would probably not be implement but I just want to give an option for consideration.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 16 2022 05:44am
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Quote (ferdia @ 16 Nov 2022 06:43)
Its a suggestion, and there are 1000's of suggestions, most of which are not agreed to. If it was not accepted years ago or today, or tomorrow, it does not mean that it cant be proposed next year or in 10 years time. I am not dying on a hill for this suggestion, i already died on the hill for D2r specific forums (Trophy Room, Legit Dueling, Low Level Dueling etc).


I know Ferd. I'm just putting my opinion. :hug:
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I'm gonna go with no here, also by filtering did you mean have the option to view only bolded or colored title threads or not see them?

We want to provide a fair trading environment for everyone and things such as minor site features should be easily affordable for all.
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Nov 16 2022 05:50am
Quote (CrackerSJ @ Nov 16 2022 11:43am)
I know Ferd. I'm just putting my opinion. :hug:


your not wrong though. over 95% of the trading forum are casual users that do not know how to navigate the forums. but then my suggestion for a price guide stickied was also refused which is a detriment against new users learning the ropes and the value of items ( I offered to write and update said price guides monthly in conjunction with a number of well known users ). A week does not no by when I am told of how someone bought something for 30 fg by a "noob" and resold for 5000fg.

I am all for new users. This is why the majority of pvp users transferred over from D2lod - because we pull our communities from this new massive player base which D2lod could never hope to re-acquire.

Quote (Lionhearted @ Nov 16 2022 11:45am)
I'm gonna go with no here, also by filtering did you mean have the option to view only bolded or colored title threads or not see them?

We want to provide a fair trading environment for everyone and things such as minor site features should be easily affordable for all.


even if you disagree with the figures i suggested, a slight increase would still be worth considering. you can say no to the increase or not to enabling filters, or you could say any bold/red/bolded and red would be captured in the filter. ultimately even with the filters currently in place it is very difficult to find items using key words. this is due to the nature of how the trading forums work on this site.

Finally, the in/out of trading on JSP is massive. All I am doing here is making a suggestion to make an element of trading easier. It is up to the seller if they wish to bold/red or red+bold their topic. the person buying is not paying a cost to filter by red/bold/red and bold.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 16 2022 05:57am
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Nov 16 2022 09:17am
I voted no. I dont think it should become more expensive to make a bold topic etc. There are many subforums and 100 fg would be quite hard to acquire in some (Im thinking LoD for example, or PoE NL)

I dont think it should be filterable.

However both these options may be useful for a new type of tag which doesnt exist yet, like a "Gg tag" you can use for insane rares/perf good uniques like perf DF or whatever which are hard to find trades for by filtering as of now. These may be filterable (as its hard to filter rares) and more expensive (as it includes the new filter option, and that insane rares can be worth a lot if it attracts the right buyer)
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Nov 16 2022 09:41am
Quote (Cenderze @ Nov 16 2022 03:17pm)
I voted no. I dont think it should become more expensive to make a bold topic etc. There are many subforums and 100 fg would be quite hard to acquire in some (Im thinking LoD for example, or PoE NL)

I dont think it should be filterable.

However both these options may be useful for a new type of tag which doesnt exist yet, like a "Gg tag" you can use for insane rares/perf good uniques like perf DF or whatever which are hard to find trades for by filtering as of now. These may be filterable (as its hard to filter rares) and more expensive (as it includes the new filter option, and that insane rares can be worth a lot if it attracts the right buyer)


At ladder launch it takes 20 seconds for everything on page one to go to page two. basically its impossible to catch topic's unless you use some kind of filter. If the site wants to grow, to such an extent that this kind of traffic becomes the norm, then additional filters are an obvious step noting the alternative (additional trade forums) have already been denied and removed.

in adopting such a filter it is inevitable that you have to increase the feature's cost as otherwise it will be abused and overused, thereby nullifying the intent for which the filters were made.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 16 2022 09:43am
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Nov 16 2022 10:25am
I think increasing the price for bold, red, italic isn't the way to go. 5fg per is just fine i think. Especially for all newcomers with 0fg coming to the site trying to trade and earn their first forum gold.
Seen a few times people accidentally purchase some of the topic features and 5fg isn't to much big of a deal but 25,50,100fg would be imo. It's a grind from the start to get your first FG trading maybe gems and runes or some uniques.

However I was myself thinking about the filter and only seeing bold, red, italic topics. I like the idea but i can also see the negative side of it. If the price will stay at 5fg each it will be overused and having bold+red will be new standard and there will be only topics bold+red in the trading forums and maybe forcing people to spend fg on topic feature, don't think that way is the way to go on the site. Forcing people to spend fg.
Myself normally look for those bold/red topics in the trading forum because 9 out of 10 times its good items and if i dont maybe dont want to buy it myself its just fun to look at the item. But it can also be a opportunity to see what the item is and actually offer and buy it.
It can be a struggle to find certain items also using keywords especially if people making the topic is using a topic title such as "GG ITEM" and then just a picture inside and no keywords inside to fit your search filter.
I been struggling to find gold barbarian needs now since 2nd week into ladder and trying to find and optimize my character :P I almost search daily for the words "extra gold" "gold find" "gold barb" and/or certain item names im looking for.
So i would enjoy the feature to filter for red/bold/italic titles at least so i voted yes on that part.

TL;DR Voted yes on feature seeing bold/red/italic titles
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Nov 16 2022 10:28am
Quote (n1ghtm4r3 @ Nov 16 2022 04:25pm)
I think increasing the price for bold, red, italic isn't the way to go. 5fg per is just fine i think. Especially for all newcomers with 0fg coming to the site trying to trade and earn their first forum gold.
Seen a few times people accidentally purchase some of the topic features and 5fg isn't to much big of a deal but 25,50,100fg would be imo. It's a grind from the start to get your first FG trading maybe gems and runes or some uniques.

However I was myself thinking about the filter and only seeing bold, red, italic topics. I like the idea but i can also see the negative side of it. If the price will stay at 5fg each it will be overused and having bold+red will be new standard and there will be only topics bold+red in the trading forums and maybe forcing people to spend fg on topic feature, don't think that way is the way to go on the site. Forcing people to spend fg.
Myself normally look for those bold/red topics in the trading forum because 9 out of 10 times its good items and if i dont maybe dont want to buy it myself its just fun to look at the item. But it can also be a opportunity to see what the item is and actually offer and buy it.
It can be a struggle to find certain items also using keywords especially if people making the topic is using a topic title such as "GG ITEM" and then just a picture inside and no keywords inside to fit your search filter.
I been struggling to find gold barbarian needs now since 2nd week into ladder and trying to find and optimize my character :P I almost search daily for the words "extra gold" "gold find" "gold barb" and/or certain item names im looking for.
So i would enjoy the feature to filter for red/bold/italic titles at least so i voted yes on that part.

TL;DR Voted yes on feature seeing bold/red/italic titles


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