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Mar 17 2014 10:26am
Suggestion: restrict the sale of unperm items in the diablo 2 forums (or anywhere on the site for that matter)
a wonderful way to throw a wrench into the cogs of the unperm as perm sellers. makes it much more difficult for johnny-random or whoever to get their hands on an unperm item to sell as perm.
Allowing the sale of unperm stuff only encourages UaP anyway from my PoV, hence threads selling unperm items should be closed and the user suspended / warned with a small amount of leeway for offenders (somewhere in the realm of posting images with sexual content / third party programs)
Sole exception possibly being jewels, but even those are iffy.
Hence I leave this suggestion here in the hopes it will be noted and implemented. Thank you for your time.
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Mar 17 2014 10:30am
This really should be done, I mean, so many people get scammed everyday, this would eliminate some of the scammer accusations and more work for the moderation team on this site.

This post was edited by TrialErorr on Mar 17 2014 10:30am
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Mar 17 2014 10:30am
Quote (Hologram @ Mar 17 2014 12:26pm)
Suggestion: restrict the sale of unperm items in the diablo 2 forums (or anywhere on the site for that matter)
a wonderful way to throw a wrench into the cogs of the unperm as perm sellers. makes it much more difficult for johnny-random or whoever to get their hands on an unperm item to sell as perm.
Allowing the sale of unperm stuff only encourages UaP anyway from my PoV, hence threads selling unperm items should be closed and the user suspended / warned with a small amount of leeway for offenders (somewhere in the realm of posting images with sexual content / third party programs)
Sole exception possibly being jewels, but even those are iffy.
Hence I leave this suggestion here in the hopes it will be noted and implemented. Thank you for your time.


VOUCH, this is needed, but won't happen.
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Mar 17 2014 10:32am
voted Yes honestly agree tho would lower people being scammed but ull still have d bags like Brad whos a virgin sitting around making unperm copys to scam
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Mar 17 2014 10:33am
explain a legit way how to find out if a item is perm/unperm.
if you create a rule which doesnt allow you to sell unperm peoples starts to sell them as normal without any info if perm or unperm

there is no way to take this unperm items out its a part of the game and if you cant deal with it you need a 100% trusted seller or you easy dont buy the item

[x] no from me ( and i dont even play nl )



on other words
wont happen cause no way to controll if a item is perm / unperm

This post was edited by Jurman on Mar 17 2014 10:35am
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Mar 17 2014 10:43am
Nvm...seen the jewels haha. sounds good to me

This post was edited by rusty06 on Mar 17 2014 10:44am
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Quote (Jurman @ Mar 17 2014 12:33pm)
explain a legit way how to find out if a item is perm/unperm.
if you create a rule which doesnt allow you to sell unperm peoples starts to sell them as normal without any info if perm or unperm

there is no way to take this unperm items out its a part of the game and if you cant deal with it you need a 100% trusted seller or you easy dont buy the item

[x] no from me ( and i dont even play nl )



on other words
wont happen cause no way to controll if a item is perm / unperm


but u can ban the unperm shops from selling unperms, less flooding the market with unperms.

kids that sell unperms as permed aren't gonna stop selling them, but would be a lot harder, if they aren't able to pm buddy thats selling the unperms at next to nothing.
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Mar 17 2014 10:44am
Quote (rusty06 @ Mar 17 2014 12:43pm)
I like this in theory, but then the price of jewels will go out the ass. So maybe limit the items sold?


jewels and runes can be allowed, there items that once socketed no longer poof..
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Mar 17 2014 10:49am
Quote (Jurman @ 17 Mar 2014 12:33)
explain a legit way how to find out if a item is perm/unperm.
if you create a rule which doesnt allow you to sell unperm peoples starts to sell them as normal without any info if perm or unperm

there is no way to take this unperm items out its a part of the game and if you cant deal with it you need a 100% trusted seller or you easy dont buy the item

[x] no from me ( and i dont even play nl )



on other words
wont happen cause no way to controll if a item is perm / unperm


two ways. price of the item (if it's a fraction of the price of a legit one, it's obv. unperm) and the seller of the item (sellers selling unperm items are known to sell unperm, so if one of them suddenly starts selling items with bad / no history .. obv. unperm)
A dose of common sense helps here too. new accounts / ones with old join dates and low post counts, (or in short users people don't really know, hereafter known as "multis") who come on the site with some item claiming its perm shouldn't be traded with, based both on history and how well the person is known / trusted.
My issue however is not with UaPers, (though they should be flogged mercilessly), my issue is with the people who enable the UaPers to UaP by selling them the unperm item to begin with. If we restrict the sale of the unperm items, sure people will still UaP, but it will happen a *lot* less. I'm proposing prevention at the source as opposed to punishment at the outcome. ;)
I mean I understand where you're coming from and I do agree with your premise, just.. I'm proposing something different is all.

Quote (Soad @ 17 Mar 2014 12:43)
but u can ban the unperm shops from selling unperms, less flooding the market with unperms.

kids that sell unperms as permed aren't gonna stop selling them, but would be a lot harder, if they aren't able to pm buddy thats selling the unperms at next to nothing.


even if someone gets his hands on an unperm from his buddy via pm he still has to contend with the lack of item history and the fact he's untrusted/unknown

This post was edited by Hologram on Mar 17 2014 10:53am
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Mar 17 2014 11:30am
Yes, I don't know why it's currently allowed.

Quote (Jurman @ Mar 17 2014 12:33pm)
explain a legit way how to find out if a item is perm/unperm.
if you create a rule which doesnt allow you to sell unperm peoples starts to sell them as normal without any info if perm or unperm

there is no way to take this unperm items out its a part of the game and if you cant deal with it you need a 100% trusted seller or you easy dont buy the item

[x] no from me ( and i dont even play nl )



on other words
wont happen cause no way to controll if a item is perm / unperm


What you're saying about telling whether an item is perm or not is irrelevant, the original poster is pushing for having Jsp install rules that restrict the advertisement and sales of openly labeled unperm items on these forums.
Big yes from me because it would obviously cut down the number of scam attempts through unperm as perm trades. That and it's bullshit in my opinion that people can just pump out and advertise false items by exploiting flaws in the game's manufacture, even if being sold unperm as unperm.
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