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Dec 23 2016 08:27am
Job 1: $13/hr, 5 days a week, 40 hrs/week, 160 hrs/mo = $1600 after tax

Job 2: I don't know the hourly wage, 6 days a week, 48 hrs/week, 192 hrs/mo = $2000 (under the table with no tax taken out)

My question is what is the difference? Which one essentially pays more an hour? First job I would make $2000 but after tax is 1600, does that mean my 2nd job pays the same as my first job but I have to work the extra days? I don't want to work 6 days a week instead of 5 if I'm only going to make crap, can someone help me? Like is job 2 paying me the same amount like job 1 but the only difference is me working an extra day every week? That's an extra 32 hours a month and idk if it balances out


This post was edited by kevin7 on Dec 23 2016 08:32am
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Essentially job 1: $1600\160hrs= $10/hr
Job 2: $2000/192hrs= $10/hr
So either way I'm getting paid $10 an hour?
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Dec 23 2016 12:58pm
Quote (kevin7 @ Dec 23 2016 10:34am)
Essentially job 1: $1600\160hrs= $10/hr
Job 2: $2000/192hrs= $10/hr
So either way I'm getting paid $10 an hour?


sounds like you should go with job 1.

what does "after taxes" mean? with taxes removed from your paycheck, or literally the amount you have after taxes are paid? if it means the former, then you'll probably get a tax refund next year, so you'll make slightly more.
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Dec 25 2016 05:01am
to be honest you should pick the job that benefits your future. Money upfront / weekly means nothing compared to money you make in 5-10 years.
Example, i started HVAC/R which is heating ventilation air conditioning / refrigeration 5 years ago. started at 13$ an hour which is chump change. even though there are dozens/hundreds of schools all around for that trade, i chose to learn in field. 5 years later im @ 30$/hr and do around 45-60 hours a week. make 1,000-1,300$ after taxes a week. and @ 40 hours its around 850 after taxes. Not sure if that applies everywhere but here in hawaii its the most needed trade and ill always have a job for the rest of my life because i can work on a air conditiong system. once you get experience and educated then it becomes very relaxing and i get to cruise throughout my day. It was a blessing in disguise that i lost my other bull shit jobs like home depot and other shitty places. Its all about happiness and your future. you dont want to be 40 years old working for 15-20 an hour. think of your future and invest in tools/books/time. apply for apprenticeship at local trade company. Blue collar work is respectable and depending on your field of choice you can always have job security. White collar work is great aswell but its becoming for sought after by college grads who spend thousands on school and cannot find a job which appeals to their needs. Bite the bullet sooner then later and accept the apprenticeship / bitchboy position with blue collar trade work and advance yourself at your own pace. If your invest in tools rapidly then more money comes sooner.

My first year at the HVAC trade and i went from 13$ to 20$ just by investing my hard erned money into much needed tools. A employer will give you a raise if you can go out and do a job with your own equipment.

Another thing is if you are worth more, then you ask for a pay increase. DO NOT WAIT AROUND FOR PAY INCREASES!

Put all your extra time into your boss. If he is the owner of the company make sure he knows that you will do what ever it takes to progress your career and help his buisness out. If he is manager of the corp then he wont care as much but he still has the potential to determine your outcome.

WORK HARD AND DO NOT BE LAZY! Many people i know do not know how to work hard. It takes a man to want a future. Boys only want money now, men want long term goals.

Succeed when younger and guarentee your future. KNOWLEDGE and EDUCATION IS FREE! DO NOT PAY SCHOOLS TO TEACH YOU WHAT BOOKS HAVE! if you need any support then todays technology is more advanced then most teachers brains. look up question on google, youtube , wikipedia. Go buy a book at a bookstore! books have gotten 75% cheaper this day in age due to advancement in technology. We are lucky.

If you Have not already done this then start ASAP, Make a list of goals. both long term and short term. great time to start it, 2017 coming up and you can reflect on your outcome at end of year. thing about where you wanna be and where you are right now.

HAPPINESS CANNOT BE BOUGHT WITH A WEEKLY PAYCHECK!

if you got any questions im down to help anyone out looking for advice. i am a 23 year old young man who didnt have any guidance and really wish i wouldve read all this when i got out of high school. Priceless advice here.

Message me and if need any advice or help.

ALOHA AND MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM HAWAII.

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Quote (kaimana93 @ Dec 25 2016 12:01pm)
to be honest you should pick the job that benefits your future. Money upfront / weekly means nothing compared to money you make in 5-10 years.
Example, i started HVAC/R which is heating ventilation air conditioning / refrigeration 5 years ago. started at 13$ an hour which is chump change. even though there are dozens/hundreds of schools all around for that trade, i chose to learn in field. 5 years later im @ 30$/hr and do around 45-60 hours a week. make 1,000-1,300$ after taxes a week. and @ 40 hours its around 850 after taxes. Not sure if that applies everywhere but here in hawaii its the most needed trade and ill always have a job for the rest of my life because i can work on a air conditiong system. once you get experience and educated then it becomes very relaxing and i get to cruise throughout my day. It was a blessing in disguise that i lost my other bull shit jobs like home depot and other shitty places. Its all about happiness and your future. you dont want to be 40 years old working for 15-20 an hour. think of your future and invest in tools/books/time. apply for apprenticeship at local trade company. Blue collar work is respectable and depending on your field of choice you can always have job security. White collar work is great aswell but its becoming for sought after by college grads who spend thousands on school and cannot find a job which appeals to their needs. Bite the bullet sooner then later and accept the apprenticeship / bitchboy position with blue collar trade work and advance yourself at your own pace. If your invest in tools rapidly then more money comes sooner.

My first year at the HVAC trade and i went from 13$ to 20$ just by investing my hard erned money into much needed tools. A employer will give you a raise if you can go out and do a job with your own equipment.

Another thing is if you are worth more, then you ask for a pay increase. DO NOT WAIT AROUND FOR PAY INCREASES!

Put all your extra time into your boss. If he is the owner of the company make sure he knows that you will do what ever it takes to progress your career and help his buisness out. If he is manager of the corp then he wont care as much but he still has the potential to determine your outcome.

WORK HARD AND DO NOT BE LAZY! Many people i know do not know how to work hard. It takes a man to want a future. Boys only want money now, men want long term goals.

Succeed when younger and guarentee your future. KNOWLEDGE and EDUCATION IS FREE! DO NOT PAY SCHOOLS TO TEACH YOU WHAT BOOKS HAVE! if you need any support then todays technology is more advanced then most teachers brains. look up question on google, youtube , wikipedia. Go buy a book at a bookstore! books have gotten 75% cheaper this day in age due to advancement in technology. We are lucky.

If you Have not already done this then start ASAP, Make a list of goals. both long term and short term. great time to start it, 2017 coming up and you can reflect on your outcome at end of year. thing about where you wanna be and where you are right now.

HAPPINESS CANNOT BE BOUGHT WITH A WEEKLY PAYCHECK!

if you got any questions im down to help anyone out looking for advice. i am a 23 year old young man who didnt have any guidance and really wish i wouldve read all this when i got out of high school. Priceless advice here.

Message me and if need any advice or help.

ALOHA AND MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM HAWAII.


This guy >> all

Expectations of promotion > money per hour

This post was edited by LordSinfriends on Dec 26 2016 11:39am
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Dec 26 2016 06:19pm
I'd take job 1 without a second thought
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Dec 29 2016 05:22am
I would have to be paid alot more than usual to work 6 days a week honestly 40 hours is long enough already
sometimes you need that 2 days to get back your sanity
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Jan 16 2017 06:48pm
Job 2 hands down.
Don't let uncle Sam touch your hard earned $$$$.
On a serious note.
The first job would make more sense if they had benefits such as a pension/Health Care. (Also ask around your workplace). (Ask your coworkers when their last raise was and what they think of the company.)

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Jan 16 2017 09:21pm
I would take job one. With job two you aren't earning unemployment. Trust me, you're young and strong and all, but shit happens. One of my best friends was diagnosed with aggressive MS and can't work anymore. Without disability he would be under a bridge. Now consider you don't have MS and get laid off. No more under the table money and you haven't paid taxes so you aren't going to be taken care of.

Job 2 looks great, but 1 with the 40 hours looks like it will lead to insurance. If you really dive into it, you don't want to ever be caught without it. That's even aside from tax penalties.

It never matters how much you make. You need to consider how much you can live on. Pay yourself. Aka pay your bills and buy you groceries, and put money in savings. Then after that's all done, and you have either $5.07 or $250.00, you have some play money. Either a milkshake or some vidya games. Save less? More milkshakes now. And more headaches later.

I have friends who make 100k/year and ask me for weed. They don't budget at all and have like 1k in checking.

Take the good job with the good routine that you actually pay taxes doing. You'll save yourself a headache.

Low-hanging fruit (more money quicker) is just a fool's path in life.
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Jan 17 2017 09:27pm
take job one

job 2 will hurt you in the long run with regards to your retirement years
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