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Feb 20 2015 09:31pm
anyone know how to prove TMS > = SMS?

TMS= time mean speed
SMS = space mean speed

Time mean speed is just the arithmetic average speed of all the vehicles.

I'm not quite sure what SMS actually is..

already googled it --> https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=prove%20time%20mean%20speed%20is%20greater%20or%20equal%20to%20space%20mean%20speed
first few links didnt even help..

This post was edited by FamilyGuyViewer on Feb 20 2015 09:34pm
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Feb 20 2015 09:38pm
Time mean speed is space mean speed plus standard deviation of the spot speed divided by the space mean speed. Time mean speed will be always greater than space mean speed since standard deviation cannot be negative. If all the speed of the vehicles are the same, then spot speed, time mean speed and space mean speed will also be same.

See link below


http://nptel.ac.in/courses/105101087/31-Ltexhtml/p8/p.html
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Quote (Xx Shin3d0wn xX @ Feb 20 2015 10:38pm)
Time mean speed is space mean speed plus standard deviation of the spot speed divided by the space mean speed. Time mean speed will be always greater than space mean speed since standard deviation cannot be negative. If all the speed of the vehicles are the same, then spot speed, time mean speed and space mean speed will also be same.

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http://nptel.ac.in/courses/105101087/31-Ltexhtml/p8/p.html


what does it mean by spot speed?

and am i suppose to like write down an example w/ numbers and just calculate both TMS and SMS and show tat TMS is always greater than it?

OR do i just copy those 13 lines in the link u posted lol

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Feb 20 2015 10:09pm
Quote (FamilyGuyViewer @ Feb 20 2015 10:45pm)
what does it mean by spot speed?

and am i suppose to like write down an example w/ numbers and just calculate both TMS and SMS and show tat TMS is always greater than it?

OR do i just copy those 13 lines in the link u posted lol



That is the mathematics behind why tms is always greater than or equal to sms and how to prove it... The actual explanation on that link is quite simple to prove mathematically I just don't feel like typing it all out on my phone when it is already there for you.
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Quote (Xx Shin3d0wn xX @ Feb 20 2015 11:09pm)
That is the mathematics behind why tms is always greater than or equal to sms and how to prove it... The actual explanation on that link is quite simple to prove mathematically I just don't feel like typing it all out on my phone when it is already there for you.


yes I know, but should I copy their proof (the whole 13 equations/lines)
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Feb 21 2015 09:52am
Quote (FamilyGuyViewer @ Feb 21 2015 01:35am)
yes I know, but should I copy their proof (the whole 13 equations/lines)



If you truely care to learn it you should read through their equations and try to understand how they are building them. Then I would write part of the explanations out with the equations because they need explanation. Also I would reccomebd trying to do the algebraic manipulation yourself. They use very general equations and essential do substitution and a bit of algebra to show what you need.
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Feb 21 2015 09:55am
Double post sorry phone lost connection at first.

Edit: on a side note just copying the equations will not provide a proof without any explanation.

This post was edited by Xx Shin3d0wn xX on Feb 21 2015 09:55am
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Feb 21 2015 10:58am
Ok thx for da help
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Feb 21 2015 02:22pm
whats spot speed though
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