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Nov 26 2014 08:52pm
Hey so I am having trouble with questions 1, 3, and 6.



For question 1 I've already showed that you can solve for u and v as functions of x and y. Let the first function be f and the second function be g. The matrix composed of partials of f and g with respect to u and v (dunno how to format it here so just describing with words) is invertible so I've got that part done. What I need help with is computing all partial derivatives of u and v at (1,1). I think I have to implicitly differentiate f and g and then end up with some equations where I can find u' and v' but I'm not sure how to get there.

For 3 I tried drawing it out at first but then I found saw that the tetrahedron formed has no symmetries that make it easy to work with. I think I may have to use a couple of double integrals to find the volume but I'm having trouble figuring out the bounds of integration. I'm not even sure what function I would use for the integrand, would I use the equations of the planes formed by the faces of the tetrahedron?

For question 6 x=0 should actually be y=0
And for 6 I'm having trouble figuring out the shape. I think with z = 5-x^2 and z = 4x^2 I get some sort of tube shape going along the y-axis, and then it is chopped with the x+y=1 plane. I think I would use the region bounded by z=5-x^2 and z=4x^2 as my "base" and then have the x+y=1 plane as the height of the cylinder thing. Not really sure though

Can anyone provide some insight?

Thanks!!
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Nov 27 2014 01:22pm
Actually solved #6, got volume = 20/3. Still need help with 1 and 3
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Nov 27 2014 06:43pm
3. The volume of your tetrahedron is given by the formulae : V = Base*Heigth /3, just like any other pyramid.
Considering the base on the (xz) plane :
Base = 3*4 /2 = 6
Heigth =1

so volume = 6*1 / 3 = 2

The use of any double integral is simply useless in this case.
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Nov 27 2014 06:49pm
6. It seems to me that your volume is not bounded properly. Its volume is infinite.

This post was edited by feanur on Nov 27 2014 07:17pm
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6. It seems to me that your volume is not bounded properly. It's volume is infinite.


For question 6 x=0 should actually be y=0.
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Nov 27 2014 07:16pm
Well in this case :

Volume = Integral ( y=0 to 1, x = 0 to 1-y, z = 4x² to 5-x², dydxdz)

V = I ( y=0 to 1, x=0 to 1-y, (5-5x²)dxdy )

V = I ( y=0 to 1, [5x - 5x^3/3] between 0 and 1-y.dy )

V = I ( y=0 to 1, [5(1-y) - 5(1-y)^3/3].dy )

3V = I (y=0 to 1, (10 - 15y² + 5y^3)dy )

3V = [ 10y - 5y^3 + (5/4)y^4 ] between 0 and 1

3V = 10 - 5 + (5/4) = 25/4

V = 25/12

if I do no mistake.
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Nov 27 2014 08:09pm
Quote (feanur @ Nov 27 2014 08:16pm)
Well in this case :

Volume = Integral ( y=0 to 1, x = 0 to 1-y, z = 4x² to 5-x², dydxdz)

V = I ( y=0 to 1, x=0 to 1-y, (5-5x²)dxdy )

V = I ( y=0 to 1, [5x - 5x^3/3] between 0 and 1-y.dy )

V = I ( y=0 to 1, [5(1-y) - 5(1-y)^3/3].dy )

3V = I (y=0 to 1, (10 - 15y² + 5y^3)dy )

3V = [ 10y - 5y^3 + (5/4)y^4 ] between 0 and 1

3V = 10 - 5 + (5/4) = 25/4

V = 25/12

if I do no mistake.


I considered the region bounded between z = 4x² and z = 5-x² as the base of the solid and the top piece was the plane x+y=1. So

V = I (x=-1 to 1, z=4x² to 5-x², y=0 to 1-x) dydzdx

Where do you get y=0 to 1 from?
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Nov 27 2014 09:04pm
Quote (Bloo_Guardian @ Nov 27 2014 10:09pm)
I considered the region bounded between z = 4x² and z = 5-x² as the base of the solid and the top piece was the plane x+y=1. So

V = I (x=-1 to 1, z=4x² to 5-x², y=0 to 1-x) dydzdx

Where do you get y=0 to 1 from?


not sure how you have x=-1 to 1 because x is bounded by the plane y=0
feanur's limits seem to be correct

This post was edited by rwarth on Nov 27 2014 09:09pm
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not sure how you have x=-1 to 1 because x is bounded by the plane y=0


are you saying the points (-1,0,0) and (1,0,0) do not lie on the plane y = 0?
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Nov 27 2014 09:29pm
those points do lie on the plane y=0.
the plane y=0 is constructed by taking the line y=0 and extending it across x and z.
however you will be crossing the plane when you go from (-1,0,0) to (1,0,0) and therefore they both wouldn't be in your boundary
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