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Mar 13 2014 06:05pm
Is the inverse of undefined zero?


Tangent = undefined

Cotangent = 1/tan


1/undefined = zero ? Or undefined
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Mar 13 2014 06:35pm
I would guess it's zero.

tan = sin / cos

when tan is undefined it means tan = sin(whatever)/0

so inverse of that would just be 0/sin(whatever) = 0
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Mar 13 2014 06:36pm
Quote (fingerling @ Mar 13 2014 07:05pm)
Is the inverse of undefined zero?


Tangent = undefined

Cotangent = 1/tan


1/undefined = zero ? Or undefined


how are you defining "undefined"? if the denominator is 0 which makes it undefined, then you're saying undefined = 1 / 0, in which case the multiplicative inverse of 1/0 is 0.

if you're saying "undefined" could mean a hole in a graph, then no the inverse is not 0.

This post was edited by carteblanche on Mar 13 2014 06:36pm
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Mar 13 2014 08:00pm
in the range 0<=Ɵ<=2pi
tanƟ is undefined for the following values:

tan(pi/2) = undefined
tan(3pi/2) = undefined

the cotƟ for those values is:
cot(pi/2) = 0
cot(3pi/2) = 0
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Mar 13 2014 08:19pm
Quote (carteblanche @ Mar 13 2014 07:36pm)
how are you defining "undefined"? if the denominator is 0 which makes it undefined, then you're saying undefined = 1 / 0, in which case the multiplicative inverse of 1/0 is 0.

if you're saying "undefined" could mean a hole in a graph, then no the inverse is not 0.



I'm talking about tangent and cotangent. Tangent is y/x... If I said tangent =undefined then y/x must be undefined. If y/x is undefined it must mean x = 0

If tan = undefined, cotan is 1/undefined. Is 1/undefined zero, or undefined ,was my question.


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Mar 13 2014 08:51pm
i don't think you can say something such as "tangent=undefined." instead ,it should be something on the lines of, "for x=0 , f(x)=tan(x), f(x) is undefined"
you're trying to use "undefined" as a number or so, which it is not

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f(x)= x^.5 , f(x) is undefined for x <0

g(x) = 1/f(x) = 1/(x^.5) , still undefined for x<0 , and x=0, not your "1/undefined = 0"




This post was edited by saber_x3 on Mar 13 2014 09:02pm
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Mar 13 2014 11:47pm
Quote (fingerling @ 14 Mar 2014 02:19)
I'm talking about tangent and cotangent. Tangent is y/x... If I said tangent =undefined then y/x must be undefined. If y/x is undefined it must mean x = 0
If tan = undefined, cotan is 1/undefined. Is 1/undefined zero, or undefined ,was my question.


it's not that easy
to find out the value of something having 'undefined' in the denominator (or numerator or both) one needs to approach that point via limits
as per your specific question: look at post#4 from 'Azrad'
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Mar 14 2014 02:14am
here is a fun video that doesn't take much math knowledge to follow on a similar topic:

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Quote (fingerling @ Mar 14 2014 03:19am)
I'm talking about tangent and cotangent. Tangent is y/x... If I said tangent =undefined then y/x must be undefined. If y/x is undefined it must mean x = 0

If tan = undefined, cotan is 1/undefined. Is 1/undefined zero, or undefined ,was my question.


There's some kind of misconception about the definition of cotangent.

Cotangent (x) = cos(x) / sin(x) for every x such as sin(x) is not zero.

Notice that cotan is not 1/tan.

Quote (brmv @ Mar 14 2014 06:47am)
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as per your specific question: look at post#4 from 'Azrad'


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Mar 14 2014 09:10pm

Undefined approaches infinity.
The inverse of undefined approaches zero.
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