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Feb 3 2014 07:29pm
Question 1: Why would you expect diffusion to stop at temperatures near absolute zero?

Question 2: If a solute cannot enter or leave a cell, how can equilibrium be reached?


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Feb 3 2014 08:17pm
1) iirc temperature is the measure of how fast molecules are moving. if temperature is at absolute zero, nothing's moving. diffusion is movement by definition.

2) solvent can enter/leave.
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Feb 4 2014 05:33am
_near_ absolute zero is not at zero. So I would not expect diffusion to stop until it is at absolute zero.

Active transport.

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Quote (Dmon_Hunter @ Feb 4 2014 05:33am)
_near_ absolute zero is not at zero. So I would not expect diffusion to stop until it is at absolute zero.

Active transport.


not 100% positive but at near absolute zero, nearly everything (?), one exception being Helium, would be a solid. i believe then there are more energy barriers that would not be overcome in order for diffusion in a solid to occur.

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not 100% positive but at near absolute zero, nearly everything (?), one exception being Helium, would be a solid. i believe then there are more energy barriers that would not be overcome in order for diffusion in a solid to occur.


heh i almost overlooked that. Talk about tunnel vision
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Quote (cialda @ Feb 4 2014 08:11am)
not 100% positive but at near absolute zero, nearly everything (?), one exception being Helium, would be a solid. i believe then there are more energy barriers that would not be overcome in order for diffusion in a solid to occur.


After looking into it more, I think this is wrong. Diffusion or the movement of particles would still occur. However, it may not reach equilibrium state (at all?) which is what i screwed up on. The particles would still be moving but their random movement would be restricted to a more confined area. So diffusion, or movement, would still occur as Dmon_Hunter said.

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Quote (cialda @ Feb 4 2014 04:59pm)
After looking into it more, I think this is wrong. Diffusion or the movement of particles would still occur. However, it may not reach equilibrium state (at all?) which is what i screwed up on. The particles would still be moving but their random movement would be restricted to a more confined area. So diffusion, or movement, would still occur as Dmon_Hunter said.


Thank you sir
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