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Apr 28 2013 10:22pm
Determine whether the following series are convergent or divergent. Please show work.
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Apr 28 2013 10:57pm
1: divergent, the term is greater than (3/2)^k, so every the sum is constantly increasing by an increasing amount
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Apr 29 2013 12:33am
#3 & #7 are convergent because every term is less than 1/(n^2) and that series is convergent

if #8 is 1/(k^5) the same argument hiolds, but the picture is a little unclear

#5 is similar to #1 above

#6 is divergent because every term is larger than 1/k and that series diverges

#4 can be reordered so that every term is larger than 1/sqrt(n) which is larger than 1/n, so the series is divergent as well

sorry no comment on #2, don't have any reference material on hand - you have to wait for 'Azrad' or someone with similar knowledge/tools

This post was edited by brmv on Apr 29 2013 12:47am
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Apr 30 2013 07:23pm
Can anyone finish #2?
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Apr 30 2013 07:28pm
i would assume #2 diverges since it is an oscillating function. I'm not certain since your k-values are natural numbers (not continuous) and are taken at different points on the sine function, but that's my best educated guess.
I would seek a second opinion to be sure!
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Apr 30 2013 07:51pm
Quote (p00tang @ 1 May 2013 01:23)
Can anyone finish #2?


Quote (TritonV8 @ 1 May 2013 01:28)
i would assume #2 diverges since it is an oscillating function. I'm not certain since your k-values are natural numbers (not continuous) and are taken at different points on the sine function, but that's my best educated guess.
I would seek a second opinion to be sure!


while it definitely is not straight forward convergent it could very well be conditionally convergent (which would be my educated guess)
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May 1 2013 04:38pm
Quote (brmv @ Apr 29 2013 07:33am)
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#4 can be reordered so that every term is larger than 1/sqrt(n) which is larger than 1/n, so the series is divergent as well

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Be extremely careful when you "reorder" terms in a serie.

But the conclusion is correct, #4 diverges.

You can simply check that general term is larger than 1 / k, that have a divergent serie.

Quote (p00tang @ May 1 2013 02:23am)
Can anyone finish #2?


#2 diverges simply because sin(k) doesn't tend to 0.

Having the general term tending to zero is a necessary (but not sufficient) condition for a serie to converge.
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May 1 2013 05:10pm
Quote (feanur @ 1 May 2013 22:38)
Be extremely careful when you "reorder" terms in a serie.
But the conclusion is correct, #4 diverges.
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if you can reorder a series consisting of only positive terms so that it diverges it is safe to do so
one has to be careful when the series does not consist of all positive terms or one does a massive reorder to not forget anything, for #4 it is easy
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