the math nerds are raging...

Edit: nn for the spam...

and stop trolling this isnt a troll thread...

i make myself laugh...

This post was edited by Kahl4Prez on May 20 2010 10:14am

You can't really use uncommon notations when not all the readers are familiar with them.

im just saying debating what is 0.000...1 is meaningless since it doesn't represent anything.

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This post was edited by Taxidermy on May 20 2010 11:06am

One of these days I'm going to report all 600 of these posts to get this thread closed.

i was considering just reporting taxidermy's posts. i figured that would be enough spam to get rid of this shit
i mean seriously, why does he edit the number of posts in? its not like he forgets to put it in there. why not just put it in the original post

Some number systems, like the hyperreasl or surreals or the Levi-Civita field, allow for the existence of infinitesimals. In these cases 0.000...1 may have meaning.
But we're in the reals, so...

this only works when you round, which doesnt give you an exact number anyway..as it is impossible to express 1/3, 1/3 does not actually equal 0.33333..... that is just the closest we can show to it. and if you round a number, and then multiply it, it will yeild completely different results than if you used the actual value(in this case there is no actual value that can be written down, so .999... does not, and will never equal 1...it's the stupidest idea, even if "mathematicians" agree) i have a reasonable understanding of what you are doing, i had to do a lot of stupid shit like this in math classes. if the numbers are different, then it is not equal, even if there is a way using common mathematics to "prove" it.

Actually you apparently have NO understanding of what's going on. 1/3 IS .3333... Remember that "..." is our way of communicating that the 3s go on forever.

So you're disagreeing with a mathematical proof? You clearly don't understand what it means to be "proven."

This thread is no longer about whether or not .999... and 1 are equal. It's fact that they are. This thread is about people exposing where their education has failed them. It appears nobody understands jack shit about numbers and math in general.
You have the right idea when you say that rounding -> multiplying -> getting a large error. This is true. It's also true that we cannot write down .333... or .999..., but just because we cannot write these numbers in their entirety does not mean we cannot work with them in their entirety. Note how none of the proofs involve writing anything by hand.

so if .333... and 1/3 are not the same, what is the average of the two numbers

so if i write

1, 2, ... , n

this means infinite numbers between 1 and n ?

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This post was edited by Taxidermy on May 20 2010 05:06pm