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May 13 2010 06:04pm
Quote (syncmaster550 @ May 12 2010 11:25pm)
0.999999.... = ∞

everytime you ad another decimal place, it increses the number by that number, only bringing it closer and closer to 1, but never getting to = 1
you will constantly increase the value of the number, making it an infinite number because it will never stop


pathetic. just pathetic. 1/10

edit : +38

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Quote (Taxidermy @ May 14 2010 10:04am)
pathetic. just pathetic. 1/10

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Have you created a 11,000 thread yet and given your thanks to this topic right here?
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Quote (CPK001 @ May 13 2010 07:55pm)
Have you created a 11,000 thread yet and given your thanks to this topic right here?


i lol'ed

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May 13 2010 07:06pm
Let X = .999999
10X = 9.9999999
10X-X = 9
9X = 9
X = 1

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Quote (Mastersam93 @ May 14 2010 11:06am)
Let X = .999999
10X = 9.9999999
10X-X = 9
9X = 9
X = 1

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That has been posted to many times.

Try to work backwards now. I'll start you off by making X = 1

Turn that X into 0.9999...
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May 13 2010 07:27pm
Quote (CPK001 @ May 13 2010 08:26pm)
That has been posted to many times.

Try to work backwards now. I'll start you off by making X = 1

Turn that X into 0.9999...


The problem with your objection is that every step is still correct, it is just no longer convincing :P
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May 13 2010 07:28pm
Quote (Mastersam93 @ 13 May 2010 19:06)
Let X = .999999
10X = 9.9999999
10X-X = 9
9X = 9
X = 1

/thread


you would think o.o but this has been said many times before and thead still continues.

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think you could explain to me why it has infinite surface area nd finite volume?
Way I see it is if the volume has a limit, then when taking the limit of the surface area it just gets smaller and smaller and simply hits well a limit. It just starts to become a line an lines have zero area?
it hurts my head
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Quote (ass666 @ May 13 2010 08:28pm)
you would think o.o but this has been said many times before and thead still continues.

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About Gabriels Trumpet
think you could explain to me why it has infinite surface area nd finite volume?
Way I see it is if the volume has a limit, then when taking the limit of the surface area it just gets smaller and smaller and simply hits well a limit. It just starts to become a line an lines have zero area?
it hurts my head


So basically the idea is that in the "bottom" of the trumpet, the area becomes arbitrarily small very fast. So fast, in fact, that any positive quantity of a sufficiently dividable "liquid" (i.e. a liquid that has no minimal units like molecules) you wanted to fill it with would clog up all but a finite amount of the trumpet. This issue isn't something you can think about physically, because there is an actual physical boundary to how small an object can go (in theory anyway, it's called the Planck length if you're interested). This means that nothing can actually achieve this level of tightness in reality. This is where the counter-intuitive part of the problem pops up, since you require that this object be contracting arbitrarily fast to keep the volume finite.
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So basically the idea is that in the "bottom" of the trumpet, the area becomes arbitrarily small very fast. So fast, in fact, that any positive quantity of a sufficiently dividable "liquid" (i.e. a liquid that has no minimal units like molecules) you wanted to fill it with would clog up all but a finite amount of the trumpet. This issue isn't something you can think about physically, because there is an actual physical boundary to how small an object can go (in theory anyway, it's called the Planck length if you're interested). This means that nothing can actually achieve this level of tightness in reality. This is where the counter-intuitive part of the problem pops up, since you require that this object be contracting arbitrarily fast to keep the volume finite.


so this doesn't have much to do with mathematical limits but physical ones?
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Quote (ass666 @ May 13 2010 08:57pm)
so this doesn't have much to do with mathematical limits but physical ones?


The reason it doesn't make sense is because you're thinking about it physically. Mathematical surface area (e: and volume actually) isn't quite what you think of physically. It's a pretty good approximation most of the time though (this is one of those times when it isn't).

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