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Apr 16 2010 12:00pm
Quote (coffe90 @ Apr 16 2010 12:00pm)
YOUR FIRST FAST PROOF IS SHIT AND ALSO WRONG.

0,333 IS NOT EQUAL TO 1/3 ITS APROXIMATLY BUT NOT EXACLY AND THE PROOF IS THAT IF YOU MULTIPLY 0,33 X3 YOU WILL GET 0.99 NEVER 1


lol

well, not everyone can be blessed with an IQ...

we need wal*mart workers...
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lol

well, not everyone can be blessed with an IQ...

we need wal*mart workers...


I'm glad we have forum warriors like you around to remind people how awesome you are.

By the way, what are your thoughts on the Langlands program in general and the generalized modularity conjecture (for Abelian varieties) in particular? Always wanted to ask someone as smart as you.
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I'm glad we have forum warriors like you around to remind people how awesome you are.

By the way, what are your thoughts on the Langlands program in general and the generalized modularity conjecture (for Abelian varieties) in particular?  Always wanted to ask someone as smart as you.


I don't think it's good.

I think it can be better.

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Apr 16 2010 01:03pm
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I'm glad we have forum warriors like you around to remind people how awesome you are.

By the way, what are your thoughts on the Langlands program in general and the generalized modularity conjecture (for Abelian varieties) in particular?  Always wanted to ask someone as smart as you.


was i talkin shit about you? no

now about Langlands program and generalized modularity conjecture, not my field of study...

but i know that .999... = 1

can we talk theoretical Physics?

or hell lets just wax poetic in philosophy... Does a God Exist? Can you prove this mathematically? is the universe infinitely large, or does it have an end? do parallel realities exist? is there Truly Dark matter or is our Understanding just limited by what we know at this time? These are the questions i spend my time on, i greatly disagree with the Person, Place, Thing, model of history, i believe events are caused by the 'power gap' model? do you follow what im talking about?

im basically stating that i dont site my research, i have information from varying sources and have no intention of learning the inconsequential... can you explain the real world value of either the Langlands Program or The Generalized modularity conjecture?

anyone can pull obscure references about their major, but it is a mark of intelligence someone who has learned to think.... The way we learn in school now a days is to teach to a test, Thinkers are becoming fewer and further between in the US at least...

BTW i worked at walmart for a while, i was making a generalization and talkin a little shit... get over yourself, and let me copy and paste something here for you, that you wrote and applies well to you as well...
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I'm glad we have forum warriors like you around to remind people how awesome you are.
.....

lol so yes i like talkin a little shit, and yes im Glad im smart and am a little arrogant about it, but it does require some work... so its something i dont mind being a little arrogant about... (obviously you feel that way too {drop obscure reference here} )

Think about it

this is still all about peoples limited understanding of infinity...
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was i talkin shit about you?  no

now about Langlands program and generalized modularity conjecture, not my field of study...

but i know that .999... =  1

can we talk theoretical Physics?

or hell lets just wax poetic in philosophy...    Does a God Exist? Can you prove this mathematically?  is the universe infinitely large, or does it have an end? do parallel realities exist? is there Truly Dark matter or is our Understanding just limited by what we know at this time?  These are the questions i spend my time on, i greatly disagree with the Person, Place, Thing, model of history, i believe events are caused by the 'power gap' model?  do you follow what im talking about?

im basically stating that i dont site my research, i have information from varying sources and have no intention of learning the inconsequential... can you explain the real world value of either the Langlands Program or The Generalized modularity conjecture?

anyone can pull obscure references about their major, but it is a mark of intelligence someone who has learned to think.... The way we learn in school now a days is to teach to a test, Thinkers are becoming fewer and further between in the US at least...

BTW i worked at walmart for a while, i was making a generalization  and talkin a little shit... get over yourself, and let me copy and paste something here for you, that you wrote and applies well to you as well... .....

lol so yes i like talkin a little shit, and yes im Glad im smart and am a little arrogant about it, but it does require some work... so its something i dont mind being a little arrogant about...  (obviously you feel that way too {drop obscure reference here} )

Think about it

this is still all about peoples limited understanding of infinity...


The reason I asked that is because you've been like that throughout this entire thread. I just treated you with the same level of respect that you treated everyone else in this thread. So what if people don't understand infinity? From your perspective, it is absurd that other people don't have as firm a grasp on the subject as you do. To those people, the entire idea of infinity is an obscure concept. You know what? There is nothing wrong with that. Gauss thought it was impossible to talk about the realized infinite (and I hate to break it to you, but that's what we are all doing here), as did Kronecker. If those minds had trouble with the concept, why on Earth would we demand that every person on a forum composed primarily of teenage nerds would understand it? Give these people a break, try to explain to them politely why you think you're right, and I'll treat you with some modicum of respect.

As to the real world value of the modularity conjecture and the Langlands program, they are actually both intimately connected to string theory (more accurately, questions related to superstrings on hyperelliptic surfaces) and general quantum field theory (particularly with regard to practical computation of irreducible representations), both of which could quite easily have real world consequences. At the very least, I like to think that we can agree that has something to do with theoretical physics? If you really spend your time thinking about the questions you claim to be thinking about, I shouldn't have to explain this to you.

Edit: Infinitesimal, as always, I cannot disagree with a cat in a suit.

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Apr 16 2010 03:14pm
It was already proven.

let x=0.999...
then 10x = 9.999...
10x-x=9.999... - 0.999...
9x = 9
x = 1


That's all you need.
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Apr 16 2010 03:21pm
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The reason I asked that is because you've been like that throughout this entire thread.  I just treated you with the same level of respect that you treated everyone else in this thread.  So what if people don't understand infinity?  From your perspective, it is absurd that other people don't have as firm a grasp on the subject as you do.  To those people, the entire idea of infinity is an obscure concept.  You know what?  There is nothing wrong with that.  Gauss thought it was impossible to talk about the realized infinite (and I hate to break it to you, but that's what we are all doing here), as did Kronecker.  If those minds had trouble with the concept, why on Earth would we demand that every person on a forum composed primarily of teenage nerds would understand it?  Give these people a break, try to explain to them politely why you think you're right, and I'll treat you with some modicum of respect.

As to the real world value of the modularity conjecture and the Langlands program, they are actually both intimately connected to string theory (more accurately, questions related to superstrings on hyperelliptic surfaces) and general quantum field theory (particularly with regard to practical computation of irreducible representations), both of which could quite easily have real world consequences.  At the very least, I like to think that we can agree that has something to do with theoretical physics?  If you really spend your time thinking about the questions you claim to be thinking about, I shouldn't have to explain this to you.

Edit: Infinitesimal, as always, I cannot disagree with a cat in a suit.


holy fucking slammed
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Apr 16 2010 03:35pm
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holy fucking slammed


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Apr 16 2010 04:32pm
Darkfire,Apr 16 2010 03:21pm~~ The reason I asked that is because you've been like that throughout this entire thread. I just treated you with the same level of respect that you treated everyone else in this thread. So what if people don't understand infinity? From your perspective, it is absurd that other people don't have as firm a grasp on the subject as you do.

well what can i say, im sick of rehashing old issues, for me this was what 5th grade math? and i still have people i see as intelligent that cant grasp the issue, yes it bothers me... this is high school math, we should all know this...

Darkfire,Apr 16 2010 03:21pm~~ To those people, the entire idea of infinity is an obscure concept. You know what? There is nothing wrong with that. Gauss thought it was impossible to talk about the realized infinite (and I hate to break it to you, but that's what we are all doing here), as did Kronecker. If those minds had trouble with the concept, why on Earth would we demand that every person on a forum composed primarily of teenage nerds would understand it?

They dont need to understand it... but if they choose to state their opinion, they should have a rudimentary understanding of the subject... teenage nerds are the group that should understand well (this should have recently been covered in school)


Darkfire,Apr 16 2010 03:21pm~~ Give these people a break, try to explain to them politely why you think you're right, and I'll treat you with some modicum of respect.

Gladly, when they treat me with respect



Darkfire,Apr 16 2010 03:21pm~~ As to the real world value of the modularity conjecture and the Langlands program, they are actually both intimately connected to string theory (more accurately, questions related to superstrings on hyperelliptic surfaces) and general quantum field theory (particularly with regard to practical computation of irreducible representations), both of which could quite easily have real world consequences.

its in the proofs of Superstring theory ~~ thats the tedious part, the concepts are simple, the proofs are a bitch ~~ i understand that it has a true effect on the real world but they are of little consequence in everyday life (other than the possible implications of the universe we know not existing) ~~~ im still wondering where this information has any relevance in everyday life

Darkfire,Apr 16 2010 03:21pm~~ At the very least, I like to think that we can agree that has something to do with theoretical physics? If you really spend your time thinking about the questions you claim to be thinking about, I shouldn't have to explain this to you.

no u dont need to explain, it lies in the tedious proofs of a theory that i dont believe we truly have a concept of yet, i believe that SST is a step in the right direction, but we still have a lot to learn...

Darkfire,Apr 16 2010 03:21pm~~ Edit: Infinitesimal, as always, I cannot disagree with a cat in a suit.

vouch this

and as for the slammed comments, i feel i finally have someone to debate with, its fun for me...




Edit ~~~ Hrmm too many quotes?

cant seem to fix it

There that ought to work

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Darkfire,Apr 16 2010 03:21pm~~ The reason I asked that is because you've been like that throughout this entire thread.  I just treated you with the same level of respect that you treated everyone else in this thread.  So what if people don't understand infinity?  From your perspective, it is absurd that other people don't have as firm a grasp on the subject as you do.

well what can i say, im sick of rehashing old issues, for me this was what 5th grade math?  and i still have people i see as intelligent that cant grasp the issue, yes it bothers me... this is high school math, we should all know this...

Darkfire,Apr 16 2010 03:21pm~~ To those people, the entire idea of infinity is an obscure concept.  You know what?  There is nothing wrong with that.  Gauss thought it was impossible to talk about the realized infinite (and I hate to break it to you, but that's what we are all doing here), as did Kronecker.  If those minds had trouble with the concept, why on Earth would we demand that every person on a forum composed primarily of teenage nerds would understand it?

They dont need to understand it... but if they choose to state their opinion, they should have a rudimentary understanding of the subject... teenage nerds are the group that should understand well (this should have recently been covered in school)


Darkfire,Apr 16 2010 03:21pm~~  Give these people a break, try to explain to them politely why you think you're right, and I'll treat you with some modicum of respect.

Gladly, when they treat me with respect



Darkfire,Apr 16 2010 03:21pm~~ As to the real world value of the modularity conjecture and the Langlands program, they are actually both intimately connected to string theory (more accurately, questions related to superstrings on hyperelliptic surfaces) and general quantum field theory (particularly with regard to practical computation of irreducible representations), both of which could quite easily have real world consequences.

its in the proofs of Superstring theory  ~~ thats the tedious part, the concepts are simple, the proofs are a bitch      ~~ i understand that it has a true effect on the real world but they are of little consequence in everyday life (other than the possible implications of the universe we know not existing)      ~~~ im still wondering where this information has any relevance in everyday life

Darkfire,Apr 16 2010 03:21pm~~ At the very least, I like to think that we can agree that has something to do with theoretical physics?  If you really spend your time thinking about the questions you claim to be thinking about, I shouldn't have to explain this to you.

no u dont need to explain, it lies in the tedious proofs of a theory that i dont believe we truly have a concept of yet, i believe that SST is a step in the right direction, but we still have a lot to learn...

Darkfire,Apr 16 2010 03:21pm~~ Edit: Infinitesimal, as always, I cannot disagree with a cat in a suit.

vouch this

and as for the slammed comments, i feel i finally have someone to debate with, its fun for me...




Edit ~~~ Hrmm too many quotes?

cant seem to fix it

There that ought to work


you must be a pain in the ass to be around, if you consider arguing this much about a worthless subject on the internet to be fun.
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