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Jul 18 2010 05:33am
Quote (zekfi @ Jul 18 2010 09:11pm)
Lol, I'm starting to get why this topic is soooo gay :D.

Let's look at this way.

You have a piece of bread.
You slice off .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 % of the piece of bread and pull it away. Do you have the whole piece of bread?
Answer is no, you do not.

The 1% percent is null, in my opinion. the 1 % stands for if they all die and don't make it to the end. It stands for the unlikely :) hence the small percentage.
Lol, I'm enjoying this :D


So if I have a $100 bill and I snip off just 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 % of the $100 bill, is it no longer worth $100?
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Jul 18 2010 05:49am
That's different. If you cut off 40% of the bill, stores will still receive the money.
as long as 50.6% of the bill is there, they have to take it. If it's cut exactly in half, then the money is not eligible for purchasing items.
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Jul 18 2010 06:14am
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That's different. If you cut off 40% of the bill, stores will still receive the money.
as long as 50.6% of the bill is there, they have to take it. If it's cut exactly in half, then the money is not eligible for purchasing items.


I was always told that if the unique ID number on the bill is on the bill that you give to the recipient, then the bill is legit.

Refer to Kahl4Prez's signature.
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Jul 18 2010 06:30am
Yeah, for a legit bill, it has to have at least 50.6% of the bill remaining (meaning only 1 half can be used. You can't cut it in half and have 2 100$ bills), and the correct ID #. It cannot
be counterfeit.
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Jul 18 2010 07:25am
How can you measure 50.6% exactly if somebody just gives you $100 bill from out of the blue?
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Jul 18 2010 09:23am
Lol, well, most people will just assume it's exactly half because they're so similar in size, so they discard it. Unless you pull out a ruler and measure the whole thing and then the 50.6% part of it they'll most likely discard it.
Most of the time, people will just hold 1 part of the bill over the other part. If they're the same size, then they won't take it. If another part is bigger than the one part, then they'll take the bigger part and throw away the smaller.
But this doesn't happen often as people are usually very careful w/ their hundred dollar bills :D
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Jul 18 2010 09:47am
.999999 will never equal 1.
It's as simple as that. Stop with all of your bullshit.
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Jul 18 2010 10:57am
That's what I'm saying :D
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Jul 18 2010 02:22pm
Quote (zekfi @ Jul 18 2010 09:34am)
Nice try, but on the number line (which is the most important factor here) 1 is 1.000000000000000000000000....
.999999999999999999.... just gets closer and closer and closer and closer to 1, but never actually hits it.

Just because there is no number between does not mean they automatically equal each other. they can be next to each other -.-

Proofs like that end up rounding just the slightest. The proof may round up to the nearest 1000th, and in that case, it would indeed be 1.


Wrong on (almost) every point.

.999... is a number. Thus it cannot 'get closer and closer and closer' to 1. Numbers don't get closer to other numbers. Numbers don't move. [Functions and sequences can be described as getting closer and closer.]

So you understand that there is no number between 1 and .999... Good. That is both a necessary and sufficient condition for two numbers being EQUAL. The SAME. [Not "next to each other." That makes no sense. They either are the same or aren't. Being "next to each other" means there is some distance between them - and hence different numbers. This is not the case for 1 and 0.999...]
In fact, a satisfactorily rigorous mathematic proof that .999... = 1 would be *precisely* to show that the distance between the two numbers is zero.

There's no rounding going on anywhere at all. None.
Try to back up what you say with some arguments next time and I'll gladly show you how you're wrong again.
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Jul 18 2010 02:49pm
Quote (chone @ Jul 18 2010 03:22pm)
Wrong on (almost) every point.

.999... is a number. Thus it cannot 'get closer and closer and closer' to 1. Numbers don't get closer to other numbers. Numbers don't move. [Functions and sequences can be described as getting closer and closer.]

So you understand that there is no number between 1 and .999... Good. That is both a necessary and sufficient condition for two numbers being EQUAL. The SAME. [Not "next to each other." That makes no sense. They either are the same or aren't. Being "next to each other" means there is some distance between them - and hence different numbers. This is not the case for 1 and 0.999...]
In fact, a satisfactorily rigorous mathematic proof that .999... = 1 would be *precisely* to show that the distance between the two numbers is zero.

There's no rounding going on anywhere at all. None.
Try to back up what you say with some arguments next time and I'll gladly show you how you're wrong again.


there is no interger number between 3 and 4, does that mean they are equal intergers?
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