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Aug 2 2016 10:12pm
1. There is a Visa 30 day window to contest charges, as well as a window of time to request chargebacks through the playstore and iTunes store. Niantic wants to make sure they have cleared all refund windows, and milked cheaters of what they will pay to get ahead of other cheaters (constant eggs, incense purchases, inventory upgrades, etc). Likely you're looking at another 15-30 days minimum just purely looking at the micro-transaction end of things.

2. Cheaters are modifying the way Pokemon appear. If cheaters disappear all in one go, the geographical distribution of how Pokemon appear will become different. Legit players will suffer since less Pokemon will spawn (less players in that area). The whole "I'm legit grinding it out here in the city" is nice and all, but you probably have 100+ spoofers that are making those Pokemon spawn for you.

3. Niantic needs to come up with a number of updates to make the game interesting again. This means changing the way Pokemon spawn and are found, adding new features, balancing, etc. If cheaters are removed from the game, they are taking out a huge base of players that likely won't come back to the game except to try to cheat again. Bad for business. They need the game to stand up on new merits before they do a banwave.

As soon as Niantic starts rolling out some great new features, banwaves are in motion. Trading won't be implemented until banwaves occur. Bots will be bots, banwaves don't get them all, and new stuff pops up, but the 'Warden' will get activated as soon as trading is implemented. Time will tell if they mark Pokemon back to the account that caught them for 'poofing'.

If anything I said ends up being untrue, the game will continue to burn to the ground.

This post was edited by Canadian_Man on Aug 2 2016 10:15pm
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Aug 2 2016 10:20pm
this game will never burn, given the 20 year history. there will always be players
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Aug 2 2016 10:24pm
Quote (FuglyJSP @ Aug 2 2016 09:20pm)
this game will never burn, given the 20 year history. there will always be players


I think you're confusing the brand (Pokemon) with the game (Pokemon Go).
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Aug 2 2016 10:24pm
first the yneed to get stable servers

then get a working tracking system


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then they can worry about bots
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Aug 2 2016 10:30pm
Quote (Canadian_Man @ Aug 2 2016 09:24pm)
I think you're confusing the brand (Pokemon) with the game (Pokemon Go).


one in the same buddy
without eachother they don't exist
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Aug 2 2016 10:32pm
Quote (FuglyJSP @ Aug 2 2016 11:30pm)
one in the same buddy
without eachother they don't exist


hell no not even

pokemon go is so damned lacking in basic pokemon game features right now it's crazy. they literally have only provided a small amount of content that pokemon gamers are use to.
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Aug 2 2016 10:39pm
Hopefully I can hit at least 30 before ban wave happens. Last night my top pokemon was a 1.3k lapras and he was my only pokemon over 1k. 24 hours later I got 2 pokemon over 2k, about 40 over 1k and got about 30 new pokemon and went from Lvl 18 to 25...

.it's like diablo, if I can't beat botters or dupers u might as well join them.

EDIT: also, I highly doubt they are recording who logs in where.. it took them weeks to fix the 3 step bug so I doubt they have the ability to record whose where and whose spoofing and whatnot...

Think about it like diaaaablo, nobody got banned for usingprograms UNTIL warden was on and theey used a program when warden was running. ..I highly doubt they have a log of people they will "eventually" ban for spoofing or botting...bans won't come until something like warden gets turned on and people get caught in the act with warden on....

...soo moral of the story is use the stuff now before warden gets turned on and then stop hopefully in time before I get caught...that's what I think at least

This post was edited by routy87 on Aug 2 2016 10:47pm
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Aug 2 2016 10:50pm
Quote (routy87 @ Aug 2 2016 11:39pm)
Hopefully I can hit at least 30 before ban wave happens. Last night my top pokemon was a 1.3k lapras and he was my only pokemon over 1k. 24 hours later I got 2 pokemon over 2k, about 40 over 1k and got about 30 new pokemon and went from Lvl 18 to 25...

.it's like diablo, if I can't beat botters or dupers u might as well join them.

EDIT: also, I highly doubt they are recording who logs in where.. it took them weeks to fix the 3 step bug so I doubt they have the ability to record whose where and whose spoofing and whatnot...

Think about it like diaaaablo, nobody got banned for usingprograms UNTIL warden was on and theey used a program when warden was running. ..I highly doubt they have a log of people they will "eventually" ban for spoofing or botting...bans won't come until something like warden gets turned on and people get caught in the act with warden on


yeah i have zero worry over getting a real ban. ill have lost all interest in this game before they get around to doing anything worthwhile to spoofers and botters lol.
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Aug 2 2016 11:00pm
Quote (routy87 @ Aug 2 2016 09:39pm)
...soo moral of the story is use the stuff now before warden gets turned on and then stop hopefully in time before I get caught...that's what I think at least


We will see.

That's why I have 3 accounts.

One spoof account. All by hand. I use XCode, so no jailbreaking, nothing. All done with Apple's own stuff.

Two bots. One I will stop botting with at about level 35-ish. Other will just keep going and going and going.

Covers my bases.

This post was edited by Canadian_Man on Aug 2 2016 11:01pm
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We will see.

That's why I have 3 accounts.

One spoof account. All by hand. I use XCode, so no jailbreaking, nothing. All done with Apple's own stuff.

Two bots. One I will stop botting with at about level 35-ish. Other will just keep going and going and going.

Covers my bases.


i enjoy bringing up the iv numbers to legit players that think they are above 3rd party resources.

i'm like hey dude i see you spent alot of candies and dust on that...too bad its only a 54% perfect one :O
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