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Apr 16 2009 12:14pm
Quote (BobiusMaximus @ Wed, Apr 15 2009, 07:00pm)
Ok, IMO here's an alphabetical list of ubers:

Arceus
Darkrai
Deoxys
Deoxys-A
Deoxys-D
Deoxys-S
Dialga
Garchomp
Giratina
Groudon
Ho-oh
Kyogre
Latias
Latios
Lugia
Manaphy
Mew
Mewtwo
Palkia
Rayquaza
Shaymin (Sky Form)
Wobbuffet


Only debatable one is Latias IMO. Opinions?


wat abut regigigas
imo he shud b here
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Apr 16 2009 01:27pm
Quote (douglas22888 @ Thu, 16 Apr 2009, 18:14)
wat abut regigigas
imo he shud b here


Care to argue why? In my oppinion Regigigas is far from Uber.
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Apr 16 2009 01:50pm
Quote (BobiusMaximus @ Thu, Apr 16 2009, 03:27pm)
Care to argue why? In my oppinion Regigigas is far from Uber.


his stats can get pretty high and slow start is only temporary
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Apr 16 2009 03:19pm
Quote (douglas22888 @ Thu, 16 Apr 2009, 19:50)
his stats can get pretty high and slow start is only temporary


I get the feeling you've never done much competitive battling, if any.

Regigigas is far from overpowered, he lacks the movepool to do anything useful - Slow Start stops him being a bulky(or fast) sweeper and his lack of recovery screws him over as a wall, he can barely even pull off support.
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Apr 16 2009 03:25pm
So, are we just going to copy Smogon's OU?
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Apr 16 2009 03:29pm
Here's the tier list. I just took it from the site I posted before(I checked with them)

We'll use this as a base and make alterations that we discuss.

Sound good?



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UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED, NFE(NOT FULLY EVOLVED) POKEMON ARE IN THE SAME TIER AS THEIR FULLY EVOLVED COUNTERPART


Uber

This tier is for Pokemon with abnormally high base stats, huge movepools. These Pokemon aren't allowed in OU and under competitive play.

Arceus
Darkrai
Deoxys-A
Deoxys-D
Deoxys-E
Dialga
Garchomp
Giratina
Groudon
Ho-oh
Kyogre
Latias (Soul Dew)
Latios
Lugia
Manaphy
Mew
Mewtwo
Palkia
Rayquaza
Shaymin (Sky Form)
Wobbuffet

Over-Used (OU)

This tier is for Pokemon that have fairly high stats and vast movepools.


Azelf
Blissey
Breloom
Bronzong
Celebi
Cresselia
Dragonite
Dugtrio
Dusknoir
Electivire
Flygon
Forretress
Gallade
Gengar
Gliscor
Gyarados
Heatran
Heracross
Hippowdon
Infernape
Jirachi
Kingdra
Latias (No Soul Dew) -Test Period-
Lucario
Machamp
Magnezone
Mamoswine
Milotic
Metagross
Porygon-Z
Rhyperior
Salamence
Scizor
Shaymin (Land Form)
Skarmory
Snorlax
Spiritomb
Starmie
Suicune
Swampert
Tentacruel
Togekiss
Tyranitar
Vaporeon
Weavile
Yanmega
Zapdos


Borderline (BL)

This tier is used to tell which Pokemon are too strong for UU, and underpowered for OU. BL is considered a faux tier, and does not have its own metagame.

Abomasnow
Absol
Aerodactyl
Alakazam
Ambipom
Arcanine
Articuno
Azumarril
Blaziken
Charizard
Claydol
Crobat
Donphan
Drapion
Empoleon
Entei
Espeon
Exeggutor
Feraligatr
Floatzel
Froslass
Gardevoir
Hariyama
Honchkrow
Houndoom
Jolteon
Jumpluff
Jynx
Kangaskhan
Lapras
Lickilicky
Ludicolo
Magmortar
Marowak
Medicham
Mesprit
Miltank
Mismagius
Moltres
Ninjask
Pinsir
Porygon2
Probopass
Raichu
Raikou
Rampardos
Regice
Regigigas
Regirock
Registeel
Relicanth
Roserade
Sceptile
Shedinja
Slaking
Slowbro
Slowking
Smeargle
Staraptor
Steelix
Swellow
Tangrowth
Tauros
Torterra
Toxicroak
Typhlosion
Umbreon
Ursaring
Uxie
Venusaur
Weezing
Zangoose


Under-Used (UU)

Under-Used is for Pokemon with average stats. Abilities and movepools are to a certain extent, limited.


Aggron
Altaria
Ampharos
Armaldo
Banette
Bastiodon
Bellossom
Bibarel
Blastoise
Cacturne
Camerupt
Carnivine
Cherrim
Clamperl
Clefable
Cloyster
Cradily
Crawdaunt
Dewgong
Drifblim
Dodrio
Dunsparce
Eevee
Electrode
Exploud
Fearow
Flareon
Gastrodon
Glaceon
Glalie
Golduck
Golem
Gorebyss
Granbull
Grumpig
Hitmonchan
Hitmonlee
Hitmontop
Huntail
Hypno
Kabutops
Kingler
Lanturn
Leafeon
Linoone
Lopunny
Lunatone
Luxray
Manectric
Mantine
Meganium
Mightyena
Minun
Mr. Mime
Muk
Nidoking
Nidoqueen
Ninetales
Noctowl
Octillery
Omastar
Persian
Phione
Pikachu
Plusle
Politoed
Poliwrath
Primeape
Purugly
Quagsire
Rapidash
Rotom
Sableye
Sandslash
Scyther
Seviper
Sharpedo
Shiftry
Shuckle
Skuntank
Solrock
Stantler
Sudowoodo
Torkoal
Trapinch
Venemoth
Vespiquen
Victreebel
Vigoroth
Vileplume
Wailord
Walrein
Wormadam (Ground)
Xatu


Never-Used (NU)

This tier is for Pokemon who are mediocre and are rarely seen in competitive play.

Arbok
Ariados
Beautifly
Beedrill
Butterfree
Castform
Chatot
Chimecho
Corsola
Delcatty
Delibird
Ditto
Dustox
Farfetch’d
Furrett
Girafarig
Illumise
Kecleon
Kricketune
Ledian
Lumineon
Luvdisc
Magcargo
Masquerian
Mawile
Mothim
Pachirisu
Parasect
Pelipper
Pidgeot
Qwilfish
Raticate
Seaking
Spinda
Sunflora
Swalot
Tropius
Unown
Volbeat
Whiscash
Wigglytuff
Wormadam (Grass)
Wormadam (Steel)
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Apr 16 2009 03:32pm
Quote (BobiusMaximus @ Thu, Apr 16 2009, 03:29pm)
Here's the tier list. I just took it from the site I posted before(I checked with them)

We'll use this as a base and make alterations that we discuss.

Sound good?


Sure, we could post a new topic and put that in the first post and let people discuss positions.
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Apr 16 2009 04:33pm
Quote (BobiusMaximus @ Thu, Apr 16 2009, 05:19pm)
I get the feelinhttp://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=30379046&f=291&st=50g you've never done much competitive battling, if any.

Regigigas is far from overpowered, he lacks the movepool to do anything useful - Slow Start stops him being a bulky(or fast) sweeper and his lack of recovery screws him over as a wall, he can barely even pull off support.


ya ive nvr done ne real competitive battling
well if ne tournys here id love 2 join if dbl battles
plus preparing 4 ne tournys will give me sumthin 2 do
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