Quote (Burberry @ Dec 17 2016 07:41pm)

Speaking of runes, also got one from the magic shop:

Destroy Rune 6* Legendary Slot 1:

Main Stat: Plain Atk94 - Substat: HP 7%
Stat 1: Atk% 13
Stat 2: CriDmg% 6
Stat 3: SPD 18
Stat 4: CriR% 5

Currently at 9 Power ups (2into speed, 1into atk%)

Quote (grimaud @ Dec 18 2016 03:42am)

gfg. and I get sexy ass 3-4 magic runes in my shop

Quote (Burberry @ Dec 18 2016 07:33pm)

Did some calculations on what the odds are of getting a CERTAIN Nat 5 (Light/Dark not included) in case you are interested:

For example you want a Zaiross - then this would apply:

- First of all there are 16 "Nat 5 Families" with 3 different types (water fire wind) each but we have to take the Ifrits out of that equation so that makes 15*3 = 45 different Nat 5's that can be pulled from mystical scroll / legendary scroll.
- I did not include specific Nat 5s out of Nat 4 families (which happens in L/D sometimes - e.g. Vampire) if you know about any feel free to update this.
- Now to the odds of getting it through Mystical Scroll / Elemental Scroll / Legendary Scroll / Summoning Stones

Mystical Scroll: Estimated chance of getting a Nat 5: 1/200 -> 1/200 * 1/45 = 1/9000
Elemental Scroll: Estimated chance of getting a Nat 5 : 1/200 but you throw out 2 whole elements so it's not 1 out of 45 but only 1 out of 15: 1/200 * 1/15 = 1/3000
Summoning Stones: Estimated chance of getting a Nat 5: 1/200 but there are only 3 options: 1/200 * 1/3 = 1/600 ; 600 summons * 50 stones = 30000 stones
Legendary Scroll: Estimated chance of getting a Nat 5: 1/12 (correct me on that one, I did some research and the data is not very consistent) -> 1/12 * 1/45 = 1/540

So if you want a Zaiross you can start complaining when you have summoned:

A: over 9k (pun intended) Mystical Scrolls
B: over 3k Fire Scrolls
C: over 30k Summoning Stones
D: over 540 Legendary Scrolls
E: a mix of the above


Further thoughts of me on this:

1) For a small extra price you get a huge increased chance of getting a certain Nat 5 when buying Elemental Scrolls so if you are hunting for something very specific ONLY then be sure to get them
2) I'm pretty shocked that the Stones are actually worse than Legendary Scrolls when it comes to summon a certain Nat 5 even tho there are only 3 in the pool.
3) Dont even bother complaining about not getting a specific Nat 5 through Mystical Scrolls cause the odds arent with you (you need a power level of over NINETHOUSAND to actually make it happen)


I'd highly appreciate further input/thoughts of you guys for example regarding my calcuations and also regarding the odds of getting a Nat 5 through Legendary Scrolls. Maybe we can even create a sample size of legendary scrolls and nat 5 pulls out of them here at jsp with everyone participating.


e: Inb4 I'm the reason for everyone here at jsp quitting Summoners War now :rofl:

Quote (Burberry @ Dec 18 2016 06:33pm)

Did some calculations on what the odds are of getting a CERTAIN Nat 5 (Light/Dark not included) in case you are interested:

For example you want a Zaiross - then this would apply:

- First of all there are 16 "Nat 5 Families" with 3 different types (water fire wind) each but we have to take the Ifrits out of that equation so that makes 15*3 = 45 different Nat 5's that can be pulled from mystical scroll / legendary scroll.
- I did not include specific Nat 5s out of Nat 4 families (which happens in L/D sometimes - e.g. Vampire) if you know about any feel free to update this.
- Now to the odds of getting it through Mystical Scroll / Elemental Scroll / Legendary Scroll / Summoning Stones

Mystical Scroll: Estimated chance of getting a Nat 5: 1/200 -> 1/200 * 1/45 = 1/9000
Elemental Scroll: Estimated chance of getting a Nat 5 : 1/200 but you throw out 2 whole elements so it's not 1 out of 45 but only 1 out of 15: 1/200 * 1/15 = 1/3000
Summoning Stones: Estimated chance of getting a Nat 5: 1/200 but there are only 3 options: 1/200 * 1/3 = 1/600 ; 600 summons * 50 stones = 30000 stones
Legendary Scroll: Estimated chance of getting a Nat 5: 1/12 (correct me on that one, I did some research and the data is not very consistent) -> 1/12 * 1/45 = 1/540

So if you want a Zaiross you can start complaining when you have summoned:

A: over 9k (pun intended) Mystical Scrolls
B: over 3k Fire Scrolls
C: over 30k Summoning Stones
D: over 540 Legendary Scrolls
E: a mix of the above


Further thoughts of me on this:

1) For a small extra price you get a huge increased chance of getting a certain Nat 5 when buying Elemental Scrolls so if you are hunting for something very specific ONLY then be sure to get them
2) I'm pretty shocked that the Stones are actually worse than Legendary Scrolls when it comes to summon a certain Nat 5 even tho there are only 3 in the pool.
3) Dont even bother complaining about not getting a specific Nat 5 through Mystical Scrolls cause the odds arent with you (you need a power level of over NINETHOUSAND to actually make it happen)


I'd highly appreciate further input/thoughts of you guys for example regarding my calcuations and also regarding the odds of getting a Nat 5 through Legendary Scrolls. Maybe we can even create a sample size of legendary scrolls and nat 5 pulls out of them here at jsp with everyone participating.


e: Inb4 I'm the reason for everyone here at jsp quitting Summoners War now :rofl:

Quote (SocialEngineer @ Dec 19 2016 07:18pm)

Man.. 3 TOP Tier Nat 4's at weekly rotation in a row again..

Currently saved exactly 500 stones and I was thinking of trying to get Lushen with them at christmas eve.
But directly after Lushen is Verde week and after that Chasun :/

I don't know what I should do..

Lushen = do I even have to say something?
Verde = DB10, ToA/ToAH, Arena etc..
Chasun = I have Praha/Bella already but Chasuuuun BAE

Any suggestions?