o my bad, i should clarify what I got. Most monsters I have that are support/debuffer are in the 180-190 spd (prior to totem, 190-200 after totem). Exception in aria sitting on merely 164 spd [thinking swapping aria & baretta runes, aria is used more and can be sitting on 188 speed instead]

debuffers runs on spd/hp/acc are at 20k hp with close to or at 100% acc.
supports run at 30k hp
Arnold 36k hp 132 spd
Hwa at 18k hp 186 spd

Verde, galleo, hwa, chasun, arnold are running the violent
vero. bernard (226 spd w/ totem), ahman, bella are running the swift
Aria, baretta are running despair
lanett is running on vampire (was testing, third skill do hit someone like arnold/chasun for 10-25k damage depending on armor, rune will be moved to sig after fusion. sig will be at 2625 atk with 94% crit & 135% crit dama & 14k hp) (have runes set aside thinking rage blade for single nuke from third skill or despair for some cc for lanett)

since im lacking threat, sig will be my threat monster. Sig will need to be paired with verde or bernard if it wants to attack with any relative frequency. (sig will have 7 skill up after fusion due to devil mons stored)
Maybe Vero[or aria]/Verde[or bernard]/Chasun/Sig will be the team in 2 weeks

BTW there is no way someone don't have the damage to just rofl stomp through any stall comps by the time you are in C1 range. Stall comp works really well in the F1-F2 range for sure. F3 is a little shaky.

This post was edited by suzakuii on Nov 5 2015 11:39am

To be honest, Sig is not really a good AD monster. You can easily one shot him and you don't have a reviver in that comp. I never really fought a good Sig comp.

Lots of people run Chloe, Megan/Galleon/Bernard, 2x Lushen in C1-3 or Spd comps and I think with sig you are just too slow with your other monsters. Unless you have a 220+ spd bernard.

There are actually stall comps in conquer. I actually fought one the other day and almost lost. It was like Vanessa, Vero, Orion, Betty. This was in C2 range. I brought Vanessa, Vero, Vigor, Bella and won.

yea bernard is sitting on 226 spd, id love to get chloe but luck hates me (as can be seen with no nat 5* for 20 months of playing and game loves giving me water/fire ninja... have gotten 11 of them total). Not to mention i haven't gotten a good reviver mons, best is water undine, though i am hesitant lvling it [though i do have 13 undines so i can easily max skill the water one... game really likes giving me undines too]

Also im tired of seeing chloe since she is too brokenly good, i have to avoid any teams with chloe in arena matches, too annoying to handle. Starting to wish i didn't get rid of my water nine tails.

but maybe i should start saving for another ifrit from GW & pray for water ifrit since sig is not good as an arena defense.

sigh, in the end i am just lacking the right damager to finish the team. Well thanx for the input. I had hunches of where i fell short so i was trying to use sig to fill the damage gap, but since it probably won't fit the bill.....

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So next question is what monster should I go for to fill my damage gap in my arena. I have 2 sets of damage runes in the form of Violent/Blade, Vampire/Revenge. Both will yield roughly the same ball park of [not including blade bonus] 150% damage, +65% crit rate [total at 80% or so], +90% crit damage [total at 140% or so], 30% health, 25 speed

[can't do violent/revenge due to runes not in right location]
[don't have speed violent for water assassin atm unfortunately, though i can always start the dragon b10 farm]

Fire/Water Samurai
Wind/Water Assassin
Wind/Fire Kung Fu Girl
Wind/Fire Barbaric King

This post was edited by suzakuii on Nov 5 2015 08:47pm

I have had similar luck. I didn't get a Nat 5 until like 7-8 months of playing. And I got pungbaek, which at the time most people considered bad. I still don't have chloe or chasun. I got lushen and verde like 1.5 months ago.

i literally did everything with F2P comps.

Vigor, the water werewolf I recently made into a 6 star and he is actually doing great. He is tanky and does damage (bruiser type monster). Maybe do some research into him, he is the F2P Eshir.

I do use Sig a lot for Offense in guildwars. I do Violent/Blade Atk/C.Dmg/Atk.

I would kill for a chloe to do some interesting Arena Offense comps. Like Chloe Randy 2x Copper/2x Lushen (If I could pull another lushen and 6 another copper).
Or any chloe with nuker.

I held F3-C1 with strictly tanky monsters. I did Vero/Ahman/Bella/Darion at one point, since I lack any good Nat 5 and chloe, etc.
You just have to use your wings. My light trio don't even have violent on them either, but they do have 30-40k HP.

Looking at your box, you seriously could probably hold C1 with Vero, Chasun, Bella, Arnold. And hope Arnold extorts kill units off. Or maybe some kind of SPD defense, which you could tinker with on rune removal day coming up. With Verde, Bernard, Galleon, X.

Edit: I am also waiting on my Theo, have 2 Amir and 2 Tse.

This post was edited by eXpLegend on Nov 5 2015 09:10pm

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Yes, for example 2 Star max level is 20. So evolve it to 3 Star, than use it as fodder/food to make a 3 star max monster into a 4 star. Don't level the rainbowmons, it takes too much effort.

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