Looking for some good smudge tuts that explain it a little better and are good i just am having problems with getting depth going and getting the effects right anyone think they can help me out figured id break down and finaly ask here instead of hitting my head against tutorial after tutorial that assumes you know alot allready about how to smudge

heres somthing i began to work on half following a tut and half trying to see what somone else did on here and trying to mimic the brush work sorta
using http://peewee1002.deviantart.com/art/Abstract-photoshop-tutorial-97489566's smudge brush settings



i know theres barley anything done on this attempt i restarted alot on this one because i kept not getting what i was going for X.X;

anyways thanks for reading and hopefuly some help will come from this for me and others who want to learn to smudge/smudge better from whatever anyone posts to help.

it looks like your doing it right, its just not finished
mmmm maybe ill make a smudge tut

well im at gimp, so i dont got your ps smudge settings.

but this is what i do.. smudging, duplicating, again smudging, experimenting with layer modes.. new layers with different colors, smudging, duplicating etc

also keep going even if it doenst look good yet. for me it tends to get better with more layers added and/or smudging some parts of the render.

at the end, i also use some c4ds on lighten or dodge/screen to enhance the effect..

im not really experienced but i hope it helped a bit anyway.

I think the main thing is picking your colors - i get one color from the render, usualy a dark one then get another medium color from the render. then a pick a nice bright color
like for the one your working on i would use that deep red, then orange-red then a golden yellow
i try to work it where the light colors are closer to the light source, like if your smudging colors over your render, white or yellow wouldnt make much sense going over a shadow'd area
if that makes any sense

This post was edited by DB_odin on Mar 23 2010 12:49pm

Absolutely true. I use the darkest color as my base or background then use lighter and lighter colors as it comes close to the surface.

Try to switch up brushes and settings but don't change them so drastically that it going to make everything look chaotic and outrageous. And the best way to add depth with smudging is the same way you would with any piece. Sharpen and blur, dodge and burn. Just takes alot of patience and practice. Once you figure out a good setting write it down or screenshot it so you can bring it back later.

speaking of which wheres some of those interesting smudge settings you were gona send me ehhh? but i see what you mean so far everyones been a big help thanks alot for contributing!

on a side not on chosing a brush that would be nice for smudging iv never had good luck picking on my own i see some people using hard circle brushes or chalk brushes with varying results whats your opion on brushes for smudging?

Cloud brushes on small scale work really well for making rough/jagged edges

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how do u make lights in photoshop like tha glowing balls