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Jul 15 2022 10:58pm
Muslim salikov is nick named the king of kung fu( very rare title for a non Chinese person)

The leech explained in china , Muslim has a huge name n won almost every single San da award,


The leech already said he can't mess with Muslims San shou, he's gonna try to use his mma to win,

.this fight doesn't have huge meaning in the west,

But in china, this is a San shou vs mma bout

I hope th3 leech wins, n inspires more Chinese to get into mma,


Peopple here don't understand, mma is like a young baby in china still, it's still pretty new,

Hell pet3r Yan said mma is stilll new in Russia, n fedor was the mma king for 10 years


If Muslim just fucks up the leech, guys in china might think San shou is superior to mma,

But mma is obviously the better 1v1 martial art,

But I think in china; they still have doubters about mmA

San shou is china's #1 combat sport, its modern wu shu

But other countries also train San shou, like Russians and Muslims n stuff

The leech has to make this fight rough and gritty, Salims a top tier San shou striker in the ufc;

Cung le was a top tier San shou guy when he did mma, nobody could beat cung le in San shou in his prime

This post was edited by tonytouchtt on Jul 15 2022 11:00pm
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Jul 16 2022 08:49am
I respectfully disagree with some of your points, but see where you're coming from. If Muslim wins, I don't think this affects China's prospering MMA scene. Find me a group of people who are intrigued by MMA and would be swayed by a TMA fighter winning an MMA fight. I just don't think you'll find many that think that way. I think the old TMA vs MMA debate is something that is held on to by an older generation, and some believe that this can still influence MMA's potential globally. Time has shown that MMA is what intrigues newer generations; BUT older generations (e.g. parents) can still influence where the newer generation intially start out. Either way the fight goes, it won't deter China's growth in MMA.

Excited for the fight though too! I think Muslim takes it if he can avoid being taken down by Li.

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Jul 16 2022 11:33am
Quote (RubyDuby @ Jul 16 2022 10:49am)
I respectfully disagree with some of your points, but see where you're coming from. If Muslim wins, I don't think this affects China's prospering MMA scene. Find me a group of people who are intrigued by MMA and would be swayed by a TMA fighter winning an MMA fight. I just don't think you'll find many that think that way. I think the old TMA vs MMA debate is something that is held on to by an older generation, and some believe that this can still influence MMA's potential globally. Time has shown that MMA is what intrigues newer generations; BUT older generations (e.g. parents) can still influence where the newer generation intially start out. Either way the fight goes, it won't deter China's growth in MMA.

Excited for the fight though too! I think Muslim takes it if he can avoid being taken down by Li.


Bro the #1 combat sport in china isn't TMA
Its San shou = modern wu shu

San shou is mma; but only standing/ the San shou throws has a rule where u can't fall on the ground,

That's why I was so proud of weilei for upgrading to Olympic style wrestling

Weilei messed around with Chinese wrestling, but Chinese wrestling doesn't allow u to land on the floor either, u have to stay standing cuz it was designed for war, n u didn't wanna be on the floor during a war

This is mma Vs San shou or San da or modern wu shu, whatever u wanna call it, but it mixed all the striking arts and added throws,
I credit cung le for bringing top tier San shou to mma,
I watched a video saying cung le brought Tae Kwan do to mma,
Totally disregarding San shou,
I litteraly first heard of San shou from cung le, so I went down the rabbit hole,

Most likely the upcoming Chinese ufc fighters will come from San shou,
San shou fighters have a easier time transitioning to mma,

Like how Americans were converting top wrestlers into mma fighters, but that formula isn't a guaranteed success anymore

I'll name 3 high level wrestlers who dropped the ball in mma, but kept getting talked about

Gregar gilipsee / Kevin Lee/ ben askren


Kamara usman is actually only a division2 wrestler
Colby is a divison 1 wrestler,

Usman is better at mma then he wwas at wrestling

( they have a whole article on mma junkie , where the leech explains the big significance of this fight in china, china is very patriotic n cheers for our country men; but the leech made it seem like Muslim salikov has alot of fans in china, his name is big there, maybe bigger then the leech)
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Jul 22 2022 11:15am
The future of Chinese mma is looking bright

N I'm glad usada is here,

Chinese martial arts culture and using roids,
Don't mix

The leech has generics that he naturally has dynamite In his hands, I've seen him starch lots of people he was supposed to lose to
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Jul 22 2022 11:39am
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The future of Chinese mma is looking bright

N I'm glad usada is here,

Chinese martial arts culture and using roids,
Don't mix

The leech has generics that he naturally has dynamite In his hands, I've seen him starch lots of people he was supposed to lose to


he was the bigger, smarter fighter this time around, and punished Salikhov for it

overall Chinese talent in UFC is underwhelming tbh, which is shocking considering how Chinese have influenced martial arts

but more times than not they have 1 good part to their game, and lack luster everywhere else and they rush the talent they have

Magnum/Leech/Kung Fu Monkey are legit tho
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Jul 22 2022 12:25pm
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he was the bigger, smarter fighter this time around, and punished Salikhov for it

overall Chinese talent in UFC is underwhelming tbh, which is shocking considering how Chinese have influenced martial arts

but more times than not they have 1 good part to their game, and lack luster everywhere else and they rush the talent they have

Magnum/Leech/Kung Fu Monkey are legit tho


Weilei is Chinese mma hero, that belt is already predicted to be hers already,, nobody giving carla a chance

N I want peopple to underestimate weilei but they don't, she's always favored

N sakuraba was the best Japanese mma fighter

Tkz best Korean mma fighter

But chinas future talent is gonna be insane, ur expecting china to be good at mma when they just learnt it,

It's like I lent u smash bros for 3 years , but I have 20 years experience,
U gotta let china actually learn mma b4 you judge, I predict the Chinese will be as dominante like the Russians, but the smaller weight classes,

Chinese aren't the biggest people, but it really confuses me when peopple think china doesn't have top athletes , considering how many gold medals china wins,

Chinese are just better at sports that don't favor huge men, like hockey or foot ball

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Weilei is Chinese mma hero, that belt is already predicted to be hers already,, nobody giving carla a chance

N I want peopple to underestimate weilei but they don't, she's always favored


her most recent KO was sick
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her most recent KO was sick


Weilei is almost like connor, that she gets favored over the champions.......

Connor was favored over Aldo in the title match


Prime connor, not this connor now they make underdog to dustin,

Weilei is like opposite of Charles oliveria, always favored, Charles almost always underdog lol

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Weilei is almost like connor, that she gets favored over the champions.......

Connor was favored over Aldo in the title match


Prime connor, not this connor now they make underdog to dustin,

Weilei is like opposite of Charles oliveria, always favored, Charles almost always underdog lol


One of my most confident picks in recent memory was Poirier/McGregor II - Poirier was +260 Underdog coming off that war with Dan Hooker and showed McGregor why you don't take time off the sport and brush up with a scrub like Cerrone (current)

Slept that mf, pretty much ended his career especially after the III outing. The 3rd outing was a near pickem, Conor closed at +100/+105
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