lol r u srsly arguing?

theres world class fighters in the UFC that cant throw kicks, let along some "30 year old" that u saw at your gym.

lets take a front leg hook kick, no matter how "hard" that 30 year old works, hes never going to throw it as smooth as someone like wonderboy whose been doing it his whole life.

sometimes idk if your a moron or just the best troll on jsp, or both.

You are both sort of right and wrong. Think about what you just replied with. It's sort of reaffirming what jj said. Of course the person who has been doing it all his life will throw it well, that's the repetition. But also some people just learn a lot quicker and may not need nearly as much repetition, I know I can learn new techniques very easily without repetition due to prior experience and understanding of martial arts.

Also there's a reason people don't use tge front leg hook kick, its a counter productive kick, it works against physics, and is completely telegraphed. Sure it looks cool but its a very ineffective technique, just like a lot of them ofcourse.

How is the hook kick ineffective.... Uriah hall almost killed that guy with one?

McGregor nearly took poiriers head off in the first 5 seconds with one..?

My point is theres no 30 year old thats done lets say, boxing his whole life and just walks in and can throw effective headkicks, body kicks, spinning kicks, etc is 6 months..

Teaching people that have never used their legs to strike is one of the weirdest things ever.

You can teach people to punch and they pick it up fine, but with kicks theres all sorts of mechanical problems.

They arent flexible enough, they havent developed proper core strength, they dont have good enough balance, they just lack a general fluidity that someone that started you gains.. And its nearly impossible to catch up no matter how much harder you work.

if that 30 year old trains for as long as thompson does, he can learn to throw that same kick with the same fluidity

all of those traits come from repetition


sure its a bit harder than boxing, but it's not impossible


a man at 30, training tkd for 20 years, could, at the age of 50 be as good as a guy who started when they were 5 and are now 25

aside from any injuries ofc

That was a spinning back hook kick do you reqlly even train tkd? A front leg hook kick is a faux side kick that you hook with.

And its ineffective because your leg swing one way and hooks back the opposite way with the heel. If you had said spinning back hook kick, then yes that's an effective kick as you have momentum from the spin.

Just like most schools teach multiple level kicks, which are also terrible as you have no momentum. A lot of techniques in tkd are for scoring points not doing damage

This post was edited by ImaginativeFigment on Feb 8 2015 10:28pm

with uriah i know it wasnt a front leg hook obvi but i thought u were saying hook kicks in general arent effective..



absolutely not. not even close.

No I was saying a front leg hook kick is ineffective, as I was commenting on what you said. I could also get videos if you like of older gentleman who are in their middle ages who don't have a ton of experience that pick up kicking just fine, a strong teacher will make a strong student, they wont allow improper form like most mcdojos will. At my gym we are punished for mistakes like that, so people learn extremely quick whether young or old.

this basically explains it.

take GSP, world class fighter, looks like a moron throwing a side kick. looks so ridiculously unathletic, etc.

no matter how hard he ever works on this kick, he'll never do it as good as rogan, whose probably hardly practiced this kick over the last 20 years but still looks amazing when he throws it.

that balance and athleticism, IMO is formed big time when youre young.