Quote (MVPx @ Apr 19 2015 12:45pm)

Ok this is an old post I made, you need to educate yourself, because u seem to think being a south paw has no advantage. Since you seem to have an elementary level of striking knowledge. Either way I'm excited for the fight, gonna bet on conor obviously.










Basically the problem is like 90% of fighters are orthodox. So if youre orthodox (like Aldo) then your whole career youre fighting someone thats standing the same way as you... Now when you fight a south paw as an orthodox you get this:

http://fightershome.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/capture_4.jpg

INSTEAD OF THIS:

http://desdeelring.com/Content/feed/1401817833/Canelo%20Alvarez%20vs%20Floyd%20Mayweather1.jpg







Notice in the first pic how their hands are together? If you can control the persons lead hand, it makes it much easier to slip straight rear handed punches in, set up counters, etc. Pacquiao is amazing at this, he "hand fights" or controls peoples front hand so good. You are usually trying to keep your lead hand on the outside of your opponents because it gives you more options and its easier to control their hand. OH THIS JUST HIT ME, if you watched the rashad evans vs lil nog fight, thats a perfect example of the hand control thing... they basically didnt even punch the whole fight.

http://media.krasview.ru/video/0837b72f9e5e453/__4.jpg

Heres a pic. They just kept playing those hand games the whole fight, notice how where Rashads hand is.

Now when your southpaw your whole life you get very very good at this. Not to mention all the other combinations, counters that are open.

Lets say you fight orthodox and 9 out of 10 people you spar with are orthodox (pretty standard). This means 90% of the time youre fighting someone in the same stance as you and only 10% of the time you have to deal with someone in a different stance like the picture above.

Lets say you fight southpaw and you fight against the same group of people where 9 out of 10 are orthodox stance. This now means that 90% of the time youre fighting in the opposite stance (you are southpaw they are orthodox like the picture above) so you get very sharp at the weird / different combinations because no one else is used to fighting like this. You are part of that 10% of southpaws they fight and they arent used to it.

So it's not simple enough to say "oh he'll find a southpaw partner to train with." It's something thats developed over a lifetime of a career. McGregor has weird enough striking as is, toss in that hes a southpaw and it just gets more difficult.

Southpaws also have a distinct advantage and ability to land strike like body kicks, I'm pretty sure Pettis went southpaw when he dropped Cerrone with the body kicks.

Hopefully that made sense lol. Basically southpaw has an advantage striking because everything and standing for them, but everything is backwards for the orthodox. You learn ways to move, angles, etc. and everything is reversed when they guys if the opposite stance.

LORD, this is a long post lol. But I think its a pretty good concept that like 98% of jsp kids dont know, and is interesting to learn if you care about fighting.. Hopefully 1 person enjoys it lol.

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Lets say you fight southpaw and you fight against the same group of people where 9 out of 10 are orthodox stance. This now means that 90% of the time youre fighting in the opposite stance (you are southpaw they are orthodox like the picture above) so you get very sharp at the weird / different combinations because no one else is used to fighting like this. You are part of that 10% of southpaws they fight and they arent used to it.

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Quote (JewGifShoes @ Apr 19 2015 12:55pm)

the problem behind your reasoning is that if southpaws were better, every single champ would be southpaw, because every southpaw would have a distinct advantage, in a sport where the tiny advantage makes the big difference




this is broscience again, no evidence other than just "it should be this way"



you act as if the advantage isn't the same both ways, as an orthodox fighter, having lead hands on the same side means BOTH fighters can slip a cross, not just the southpaw

i did watch rashad evans, and the handfighting thing was actually something he did in the jon jones fight for whatever reason he did that for, he carried that bad habbit to the nog fight and lost, it wasn't because nog was a southpaw, because he did the same exact thing vs jon jones, who was orthodox.






put it this way, the SAME advantages that a southpaw gets PHYSICALLY the orthodox striker gets as well, like the open body shots, and larger base to strike.

the rest of your argument is broscience being "used to it" is literally not a cause for concern,

i gurantee you aldo has spent more time training at this level against southpaws, than mcgregor has against orthodox, as aldo has been at this level much longer.



HOWEVER

there is an advantage to being southpaw, but it's not in the striking department.


southpaws generally are harder to take down if the wrestler shoots a single or double as an orthodox fighter, this is because it's harder to square up on an opponent that isn't mirrored.


other then that, there aren't any advantages though, because all of the physical advantages go both ways

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/e actually now that im thinking about it


aldo will have an advantage in leg kicks due to connor being a southy because in him moving AWAY from connor's power, he will be moving towards his lead leg, making for a longer range on his leg kicks.

Quote (JewGifShoes @ Apr 19 2015 04:55pm)

the problem behind your reasoning is that if southpaws were better, every single champ would be southpaw, because every southpaw would have a distinct advantage, in a sport where the tiny advantage makes the big difference




this is broscience again, no evidence other than just "it should be this way"



you act as if the advantage isn't the same both ways, as an orthodox fighter, having lead hands on the same side means BOTH fighters can slip a cross, not just the southpaw

i did watch rashad evans, and the handfighting thing was actually something he did in the jon jones fight for whatever reason he did that for, he carried that bad habbit to the nog fight and lost, it wasn't because nog was a southpaw, because he did the same exact thing vs jon jones, who was orthodox.






put it this way, the SAME advantages that a southpaw gets PHYSICALLY the orthodox striker gets as well, like the open body shots, and larger base to strike.

the rest of your argument is broscience being "used to it" is literally not a cause for concern,

i gurantee you aldo has spent more time training at this level against southpaws, than mcgregor has against orthodox, as aldo has been at this level much longer.



HOWEVER

there is an advantage to being southpaw, but it's not in the striking department.


southpaws generally are harder to take down if the wrestler shoots a single or double as an orthodox fighter, this is because it's harder to square up on an opponent that isn't mirrored.


other then that, there aren't any advantages though, because all of the physical advantages go both ways

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/e actually now that im thinking about it


aldo will have an advantage in leg kicks due to connor being a southy because in him moving AWAY from connor's power, he will be moving towards his lead leg, making for a longer range on his leg kicks.

Quote (MVPx @ Apr 19 2015 01:20pm)

LOL ok I'm done.

Quote (JewGifShoes @ Apr 19 2015 01:46pm)

see you know very little amount movement,

you move away from the back hand

aldo moving away from connor's back hand moves him towards connor's lead leg, which is ripe for the picking but also it gives aldo more range on it because of the angle, but of course you're done, you were done from the first post you made in this subforum.

Quote (MVPx @ Apr 19 2015 01:49pm)

Please keep posting these gems. I'm enjoying this a lot.

Quote (Starcrater @ Jan 30 2015 10:00pm)

Truth be told with this post

Quote (xaos4ever @ Apr 19 2015 02:37pm)

Everyone is writing Aldo off. Would LOL if Aldo knocks Connor out in first 30 seconds :rofl:

Quote (xaos4ever @ Apr 19 2015 04:37pm)

Everyone is writing Aldo off. Would LOL if Aldo knocks Connor out in first 30 seconds :rofl:

Quote (lxxgatmanxxl @ Apr 19 2015 02:40pm)

inb4 some people on the band wagon start flaming

I dont think aldo has ever been more motivated in his UFC career right now