there isn't a single feud worth following right now so until they get their stories down pact raw is suffering bad

e/ they need the older guys to grab the attention and go from there
think a bout it they bring in a guy from the attitude era (rock, angle, jerico, hardy) grab the attention of us, then throw them in a feud with someone new they want to brg up (reigns, rollins, ambrose, caesaro) have them put these guys over, build up their rep with the crowd and go from there


This post was edited by jackzors on Oct 13 2015 01:39pm

they jsut brought jericho in last ppv to take the pinfall in the wyatt feud lol and i think hes gonna put ambrose over soon anyway the storylines r stale right now at least theyre making randy orton looke like a jobber every week best part of raw

This + they got the Dudleys putting over the New Day bigtime

Plus whoever will beat Brock Lesnar will have main-event momentum for at least a year

RIP Eddie Guerrero 😭

An overranked jobber LEM like you must be happy about orton being a midcard jobber

these are all names I remember from the 90s, they like 50 years old now?

Yup, wwe creative and writers forgot how to build characters and stars about 12 years ago.

because they never knew how, all of the stars we knew growing up were self made. Sure they got pushes but everything said on the mic and their gimmicks were created by them or their mentors not hollywood writers. WWE gives zero freedom unless you are already an established name. Its kind of like kids fresh out of college not getting jobs because they have no experience... well how the fuck do they get experience? ON THE JOB.

They need to give people a chance and if they fall flat on their face then the crowd will boo them, just like it used to be. Wwe never took a hit when someone sucked, it was always the talent that had to get over or get fired. You cant have a full roster of austins and goldbergs, feeding one guy and giving him the big push is fine but thats not how you build up everyone. People need gimmicks.

Right now the only way they keep people relevant is by "mma math", this guy beat this guy who beat that guy so he must be important. I dont ever remember caring about wins or losses, it was always the characters and the match itself that sold the tickets.

Look at Cesaro for example, he did a great job getting himself over and slowly turned face but what happened? Creative had decided that he was a heel so they paired him with Heyman, who without a doubt is one of the greatest managers of all time, but was busy promoting Lesnar and Punk. He could cut a 5 minute promo talking about how great Punk is, "and oh btw, here's Cesaro"

Fast Forward, he and Kidd were getting noticed as a good team when Kidd got injured and Cesaro went solo. He had great matches almost weekly but he never got promo time and never had a chance to build a character. Now he's pretty much back to oblivion.


You're eight that superstars need to get themselves over, I change my statement to wwe forgot how to let them do that

I think the real problems started to arise when they decided to take the product into a PG direction. That's when they started giving the talent less creativity and watering the product. Unless you have a huge potential to sale merchandise or have huge mainstream attention, it's near impossible to breakout into huge success because they just feed any rising stars to their main cash cow CENA.

/e

That's Supreme Master First Class to you,sir.

This post was edited by PitchinQuarters on Oct 16 2015 08:46pm