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Jan 5 2015 09:52am
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The thing is now when Bryan and Orton are back, they don't need to push Reigns as hard, they can keep him in the upper midcard and give him time.


Pushing Reigns hard would be a big mistake no matter how bad they want him to be "The Guy". His promos are absolutely awful and his wrestling prowess is 5 moves of doom-esc. Bryan makes the most sense but hes got little time to develop a real feud or story. Since you really only have Fast Lane, since Rumble is set.
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Jan 5 2015 10:59am
The thing is that neither Orton, nor Bryan need to be pushed that hard... they're already over with the crowds and established as Superstars. They both don't need a win over Brock. Reigns does though... they built a monster heel with Brock and it probably cost them a fortune for very few appearances... it would make any sense economically not to push Reigns and give him his WM31 victory vs. Brock to establish him as a new Top Face of the company.

The problem is HOW creatives think pushing should look like... Reigns was pretty cool and got better reactions at first; then they started shoving him down peoples' throats with superman victory after victory after victory and pure dominance...
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Jan 5 2015 11:30am
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The thing is that neither Orton, nor Bryan need to be pushed that hard... they're already over with the crowds and established as Superstars. They both don't need a win over Brock. Reigns does though... they built a monster heel with Brock and it probably cost them a fortune for very few appearances... it would make any sense economically not to push Reigns and give him his WM31 victory vs. Brock to establish him as a new Top Face of the company.

The problem is HOW creatives think pushing should look like... Reigns was pretty cool and got better reactions at first; then they started shoving him down peoples' throats with superman victory after victory after victory and pure dominance...


I agree, but if Reigns does go to WM31 and become champ, he becomes a loss IMO. Reigns needs that defining moment, and Supermaning Brock isnt it. The way I see it, Reigns can't win. I know alot of people prefer WM to have clean wins, but I can see a real chance for Reigns to shine as the guy trying to get to the top but always getting screwed. Reigns vs Lesnar will happen because WWE is so easy to predict, but he should lose. Reigns lands the KO on Lesnar only to hear Rollins music queue up. Distracted he gets F5'd. Lesnar continues his run as champ. Lesnar has no reason to leave WWE, hes getting paid a boat load for not alot of work. Plus the WHC has some prestige again with it not being on the line constantly despite what people think. And this sets up Reigns vs Rollins which is really his chance to make a name for himself and finish the Shield breakup that we never really got closure on.
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Jan 5 2015 01:41pm
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The thing is that neither Orton, nor Bryan need to be pushed that hard... they're already over with the crowds and established as Superstars. They both don't need a win over Brock. Reigns does though... they built a monster heel with Brock and it probably cost them a fortune for very few appearances... it would make any sense economically not to push Reigns and give him his WM31 victory vs. Brock to establish him as a new Top Face of the company.

The problem is HOW creatives think pushing should look like... Reigns was pretty cool and got better reactions at first; then they started shoving him down peoples' throats with superman victory after victory after victory and pure dominance...


Yo're missing the point though, they don't need a new superstar but a new top face to replace Cena and Reigns isn't the guy they want for that. The guy has been wrestling for what, five years and no experience outside of the wwe. A month ago nobody knew if Bryan would EVER wrestle again so they had to rethink but now that he's back he is the guy they want. Now they can stop forcing Reigns down everyone's throat and give him the slow build that he desperately needs.
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Jan 5 2015 04:55pm
Raw should be fun tonite, first raw of the year
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Jan 5 2015 06:08pm
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Raw should be fun tonite, first raw of the year


Well they ended with the best Raw in ages, hopefully it continues
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Well they ended with the best Raw in ages, hopefully it continues


I agree
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Jan 6 2015 05:13am
So much for another good raw.. Yay another fired angle
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Jan 6 2015 12:57pm
It had some moments. Some of it was very confusing...

Dean Ambrose is arguably one of their most marketable / popular superstars yet is completely unable to win a match. Has lost every one of his solo feuds since the breakup of the Shield.

Adding Rollins to the Main Event at RR. All this does is provide a cop out for the whole match. I now see no way Lesnar loses the belt now. Rollins has nothing to gain since he has the MITB case.

Firing Ziggler is completely and utterly ridiculous. He actually had momentum and now hes going to feud with BNB, maybe after he's unfired?

Rowan's already got no credibility and his promise is pretty all gone. He's probably stuck in the mid/low card.

Ryback gave me hope with him actually having a decent promo, only to be fired. Pointless and removes any momentum he had.

Cena being to blame makes my head hurt. The angle is over played and unless they somehow flip Cena, its going to be Potato Salad and the 5 moves of doom overcoming adversity and all the odds to rescue 3 men's jobs. LOLCena wins.
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Jan 6 2015 01:27pm
^Ziggler and Ryback are heavily featured in the main storyline right now so they'll be fine. Just too bad it's another fake boring firing storyline
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