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Jan 23 2016 03:41pm
Quote (GodisLove @ Jan 23 2016 04:36pm)
Nah, you chew on icecold towels before the weigh-in to get your water in.


Well the day of the weigh in you'll intake 0 water until after. The days leading up to it you are still drinking water. The closer you get the more you scale down the consumption.
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Jan 23 2016 03:44pm
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Well the day of the weigh in you'll intake 0 water until after. The days leading up to it you are still drinking water. The closer you get the more you scale down the consumption.


Sounds perfectly healthy.

Doubt we will see the One FC weigh-in procedure kicking in, but this whole cutting weight has often hindered fighter's performances. Hendricks not making weight, some Asian kid dying.
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Jan 23 2016 03:46pm
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Well, when you cut you don't starve yourself at any point. That is possibly the worst thing you can do. Water wise too you don't stop all water intake as well so i'm not sure what you tried to convey with half of your post.


you don't starve yourself, did you read what I said nowhere in there did I say starve yourself or even imply it... Plus going 1 day with minimal SOLID food intake isn't a big deal overall and second, if you think any fighter takes in much fluid or food weigh in day prior to the weigh in, you're dreaming. That was my point. They eat shit like salad, because it has minimal solid waste mass

Do you even understand what starvation is?
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Jan 23 2016 03:47pm
Quote (GodisLove @ Jan 23 2016 04:44pm)
Sounds perfectly healthy.

Doubt we will see the One FC weigh-in procedure kicking in, but this whole cutting weight has often hindered fighter's performances. Hendricks not making weight, some Asian kid dying.


Well when you constantly treat your body like shit IE hendricks, then yeah weight cutting might not go right. Just like that asian kid although I have no insight on how much weight he was trying to cut and what his diet was like before hand.

Health wise, if you do it right and I mean 100% right.. It isn't as bad as you think and the important part which no one talks about is re hydrating and knowing how to put the weight back on.

If you do it wrong on the other hand like Hendricks and that Asian kid, it can go very very wrong.

e/ Also i'm just gonna make an educated guess and say that Hendricks probably tried to cut to much weight because he let himself get way to out of shape. His fault completely for not getting to a proper walk around in camp.

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you don't starve yourself, did you read what I said nowhere in there did I say starve yourself or even imply it... Plus going 1 day with minimal SOLID food intake isn't a big deal overall and second, if you think any fighter takes in much fluid or food weigh in day prior to the weigh in, you're dreaming. That was my point. They eat shit like salad, because it has minimal solid waste mass

Do you even understand what starvation is?


Wow, don't get so butt hurt.

I can name a handful of fighters that eat multiple meals the day of weigh ins , with whole food, that cut 20-25 pounds for their cut respectively.

Is this a dream???

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Jan 23 2016 04:09pm
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Wow, don't get so butt hurt.

I can name a handful of fighters that eat multiple meals the day of weigh ins , solid foods mind you, that cut 20-25 pounds for their cut respectively.

Is this a dream???


I'll scale it back a bit, sorry

I still think you misunderstand my point. I'm not saying they don't eat, or even don't eat multiple meals, but let me ask this, does their food have a lot of solid mass weight to it? such as steak? lasagne perhaps? of course not, they can eat that normally, and probably do, but not in the short time prior to the weigh in. It's pretty common knowledge these guys who cut big weight also reduce their food intake very close to the weigh in. Just because you claim to know a couple people who don't doesn't mean it isn't common practice.

And besides that one point that you seem so adament to pry at, we're otherwise saying the same thing.

The point I was making in bringing up personal experiences is just to show that weight can fluctuate a lot in a short time with relatively minimal changes, and in ways people don't really consider or think about. That is all
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Jan 23 2016 04:22pm
Quote (rlebar @ Jan 23 2016 05:09pm)
I'll scale it back a bit, sorry

I still think you misunderstand my point. I'm not saying they don't eat, or even don't eat multiple meals, but let me ask this, does their food have a lot of solid mass weight to it? such as steak? lasagne perhaps? of course not, they can eat that normally, and probably do, but not in the short time prior to the weigh in. It's pretty common knowledge these guys who cut big weight also reduce their food intake very close to the weigh in. Just because you claim to know a couple people who don't doesn't mean it isn't common practice.

And besides that one point that you seem so adament to pry at, we're otherwise saying the same thing.

The point I was making in bringing up personal experiences is just to show that weight can fluctuate a lot in a short time with relatively minimal changes, and in ways people don't really consider or think about. That is all


Oh yeah, you'll always weigh less in the mornings and more at night. I know quite a few fighters are eating stuff like chicken and veggies the day of weigh ins. Water intake is literally a couple sips the day of if that. Cut carbs salts and sugars out and just mostly eat protein and fat. I had to cut weight over 80 times and always had to compete 3 hours later at most. Luckily, we had a few good coaches to steer me in the right direction and teach me properly
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Jan 23 2016 04:51pm
yep, I will say though, cutting for a competition same day as weigh in (within 3 hrs as you say) is treated vastly different than when you cut and have pretty well 24 hrs to recover. You know this. I was strictly speaking about the way UFC handles their weigh in where you have roughly 24 hrs to recover.

Barely eating same day as your competition is a lot harder because you'll feel drained and have a lack of energy most of the time and that's not accounting for dehydration which is a whole other animal which is why you really need to eat solids

Conversely, getting the cut (both dehydration and caloric intake deficiency) over with 24 hrs prior and having 24 hrs to replenish your energy and hydration stores is different because you can exacerbate all the same cutting techniques further due to the time you have to recover. Some fighters take the cutting techniques to the ragged edge of what the human body can do, which is where issues occur.
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yep, I will say though, cutting for a competition same day as weigh in (within 3 hrs as you say) is treated vastly different than when you cut and have pretty well 24 hrs to recover. You know this. I was strictly speaking about the way UFC handles their weigh in where you have roughly 24 hrs to recover.

Barely eating same day as your competition is a lot harder because you'll feel drained and have a lack of energy most of the time and that's not accounting for dehydration which is a whole other animal which is why you really need to eat solids

Conversely, getting the cut (both dehydration and caloric intake deficiency) over with 24 hrs prior and having 24 hrs to replenish your energy and hydration stores is different because you can exacerbate all the same cutting techniques further due to the time you have to recover. Some fighters take the cutting techniques to the ragged edge of what the human body can do, which is where issues occur.


What if the fighters had to be weighted right as they enter the cage, perhaps as a part of the walk-in ceremony?

Wouldn't that completely eliminate the entire problematic concept while being safer?
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Jan 24 2016 09:47am
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What if the fighters had to be weighted right as they enter the cage, perhaps as a part of the walk-in ceremony?

Wouldn't that completely eliminate the entire problematic concept while being safer?


100% agreed.
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