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May 27 2017 02:10pm
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Conor McGregor told Dana White that 'bum' Tony Ferguson doesn't deserve 'a f—-ing dime'

“After this shit went down with Tony and Khabib, Conor texts me and says, ‘I can’t believe you’re going to f—-ing pay that bum Tony Ferguson one dollar," White said on Monday, per Adam Guillen Jr. of MMA Mania. "You shouldn’t pay him a f—-ing dime. He was there, made weight and you lined up a fight for him with Michael Johnson after Khabib fell out and didn’t make weight, and he turned it down. F—-ing bum.’"

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/5/26/15697482/ufc-mma-news-interview-video-dana-white-conor-mcgregor-tony-ferguson-bum


He trained to fight a different opponent. He shouldnt be ragged on for refusing to fight someone who isnt going to do anything good for him. If he fought johnson and won, his paycheck doesnt improve, his ranking doesnt improve... the only good it does is being in the good graces of uncle fester who is just a puppet.

If he lost, his ranking goes down, could lose contendership... Its not like Tony is a draw like conor and would be gifted a title shot after losing.
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May 27 2017 02:55pm
Tony would even make LESS money fighting Johnson instead of Khabib. Big bald baby is to blame.

I loved how he told everyone to still buy the PVV afterwards.
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May 27 2017 03:14pm
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He trained to fight a different opponent. He shouldnt be ragged on for refusing to fight someone who isnt going to do anything good for him. If he fought johnson and won, his paycheck doesnt improve, his ranking doesnt improve... the only good it does is being in the good graces of uncle fester who is just a puppet.

If he lost, his ranking goes down, could lose contendership... Its not like Tony is a draw like conor and would be gifted a title shot after losing.


Then he doesn't deserve to get paid. You're paid to fight, you're not paid to train for a certain guy.
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May 27 2017 03:58pm
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Then he doesn't deserve to get paid. You're paid to fight, you're not paid to train for a certain guy.


actually you are though, you signed a contract to make weight at 11am the day before and be in the octagon at your fight time the next night

if the other fighter pulls out, that shouldn't change your contract

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do you think Conor would allow UFC to change his contract if Alvarez got sick and he had to fight Johnson the next night?

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May 27 2017 06:03pm
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Then he doesn't deserve to get paid. You're paid to fight, you're not paid to train for a certain guy.


You sign a contract with a specific fighter. If that fighter bails out or doesnt make weight, you think he should have to pay for his training, nutritionalist and all other expenses. He should have to pay all that and risk his current status and possibly his career?

Screw that imho
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May 28 2017 07:49am
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actually you are though, you signed a contract to make weight at 11am the day before and be in the octagon at your fight time the next night

if the other fighter pulls out, that shouldn't change your contract

edit:

do you think Conor would allow UFC to change his contract if Alvarez got sick and he had to fight Johnson the next night?


Why shouldn't it change your contract? You are no longer able to fulfill it. Yea it's shitty but you either fight someone else to get paid or you chose to not fight and not get paid.

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You sign a contract with a specific fighter. If that fighter bails out or doesnt make weight, you think he should have to pay for his training, nutritionalist and all other expenses. He should have to pay all that and risk his current status and possibly his career?

Screw that imho


He's going to be training, eating and having expenses either way. If he's not willing to fight someone else to make money it isn't the UFCs problem.
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May 28 2017 07:55am
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Why shouldn't it change your contract? You are no longer able to fulfill it. Yea it's shitty but you either fight someone else to get paid or you chose to not fight and not get paid.



He's going to be training, eating and having expenses either way. If he's not willing to fight someone else to make money it isn't the UFCs problem.


I think if one fighter obides by the contract and the other doesnt, he shouldnt be forced to fight a different fighter to get paid, especially if its going to nothing good for his/her career. Perhaps he doesnt deserve all of the money, but the ufc should at least pay for his training and expenses.

If a fighter does decide to face a different opponent, who isnt going to do anything for the fighters career, there should be incentives... A bonus or something extra.

I mean, we all know these guys dont make crap compared to what the company is making
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May 28 2017 08:00am
All based on how popular the fighter is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_209

Horrible card, yet UFC did not find it necessary to pay El Cucuy the same amount of money should he fight Johnson and add a little substance to the card.
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May 28 2017 09:04am
don't pay the man a dime. taking the fight with MJ would have earned future opportunities
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May 28 2017 09:44am
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I think if one fighter obides by the contract and the other doesnt, he shouldnt be forced to fight a different fighter to get paid, especially if its going to nothing good for his/her career. Perhaps he doesnt deserve all of the money, but the ufc should at least pay for his training and expenses.

If a fighter does decide to face a different opponent, who isnt going to do anything for the fighters career, there should be incentives... A bonus or something extra.

I mean, we all know these guys dont make crap compared to what the company is making


I'm not arguing they make enough money or that the ufc would be hurt by it, but unless it's strictly written in the contract there is no other combat sport that pays someone for not fighting.

I 100% agree with your second statement. If he takes the fight he should get incentives. Maybe not as much pay if the UFC wants to argue that, but bonuses and guarantees if he were to lose and shit.

In my personal opinion I think every fighter on the roster should have a small base salary of pretty much what training costs. It would be a minimal cost to the ufc and would make it so fighters wouldn't have to make shit deals with coaches and training partners to give up large chunks of their fight pay. It would make it so fighters would be in fight shape more often I think too, which would lead to more ready replacements.
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