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Mar 14 2015 02:34pm
Quote (Shadowoffury @ Mar 14 2015 03:31pm)
:blink: wtfno... that's only possible if you're burning more than twice as many calories as usual--or you have diarrhea--which for a professional athlete is essentially impossible. Even if it were possible, what would be the point? I can tell you from experience, having actually read his book The Dolce Diet: Living Lean, that he does not suggest that you increase your caloric intake, he suggests you decrease it DRASTICALLY.

A lot of people think "the dolce diet" is some revolutionary diet, when in fact it's just a cheater's Paleo. He didn't even invent it...


Curreri: What did Bigfoot start his camp at?

Dolce: Five weeks before this fight, when I went to Florida to work with him in his camp, he was 289 pounds. Within 10 days he was down to 271, and I probably doubled his calories
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e/

Curreri: So your clients are eating relatively well leading up to weigh-in?

Dolce: Food is fuel … so I recommend that you eat every two to four hours that you’re awake, no matter what is going on, to keep your insulin stable and regulate your metabolism. And we cater that around your goal and provide the right amount of nutrients and have the metabolism adapt accordingly.

So my guys typically, week of the fight, they eat four times on the Thursday before weigh-in. They eat constantly, everyday. So some of the Brazilians, guys like Vitor Belfort and Thiago Alves, love to tweet pictures of their food like, ‘I can’t believe it’s fight week and I’m eating pancakes today!’

A guy might be 22 pounds over fight week but we’re still feeding them dinner, feeding the metabolism and making it faster. We make the fighter feel strong and feel fresh so they have the energy to get out there and cut weight. I have them cut weight by feeding them instead of starving and suffering.


Curreri: Who are the biggest weight cutters among your clientele?

Dolce: The biggest weight cutters come to me now. And that’s not a statement of pride – it’s just a fact. Rampage, who literally would walk between 250 and 260 up to eight weeks before a fight … now, I haven’t worked with him for his last two fights (one of which saw Rampage overweight for his bout against Ryan Bader, which Rampage attributed to a knee injury suffered in training camp). I worked with Chael Sonnen, who was 233 pounds, eight weeks before his fight with Michael Bisping. Chael fights at 185 pounds so that’s roughly 48 pounds; that’s huge man.

Thiago Alves and Johny Hendricks both brought me in and they are guys that both weigh upwards of 205 and 210 pounds, so that’s a 35- or 40-pound weight cut. I got Jake Ellenberger, who’s a 200-pound man. Mark Bocek, who gets up to 190 or so and fights at ’55. Keith Jardine, who made 185 for the first time since he was 17 years old with me, leading up to his Strikeforce middleweight title fight against Luke Rockhold. Now, Keith lost that fight, unfortunately, but he made the weight and felt great.

But out of all the guys that I work with, Duane Ludwig (who fights Saturday night against Dan Hardy at UFC 146) is the best weight cutter that I’ve ever worked with. Duane is a 195-pound man and gets up to 200 pounds and is decently lean at that weight. Around Christmas of 2009 Duane had been fighting in smaller shows and he got a call from Joe Silva and an offer to fight January second against Jim Miller, on 13 days’ notice. Duane calls me up, tells me the deal. I’m like, ‘Sweet, what do you weigh?’

He was 198 pounds and had to make 156. That’s a 43-pound weight loss in 13 days. We did it. Wow! Duane looked great, he just got caught in an armbar by Jim. Now five fights later Duane is back at welterweight. I’ve worked with Duane for quite a while now and he used to cut more weight than anybody else and he handles it like a professional, he doesn’t handle it emotionally. People don’t really see that because he looks skinny but he’s a big guy. He knows what he has to do and he gets it done very clinically. Other guys moan and complain and things like that, but it’s the choice that you make.


... He helps people cut weight as healthy as possible. Their is a reason every star has him in his corner. Whether it be a pseudo or not , he helps drastically.

This post was edited by lxxgatmanxxl on Mar 14 2015 02:38pm
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Mar 14 2015 02:39pm
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Curreri: What did Bigfoot start his camp at?

Dolce: Five weeks before this fight, when I went to Florida to work with him in his camp, he was 289 pounds. Within 10 days he was down to 271, and I probably doubled his calories.

e/


Curreri: So your clients are eating relatively well leading up to weigh-in?

Dolce: Food is fuel … so I recommend that you eat every two to four hours that you’re awake, no matter what is going on, to keep your insulin stable and regulate your metabolism. And we cater that around your goal and provide the right amount of nutrients and have the metabolism adapt accordingly.

So my guys typically, week of the fight, they eat four times on the Thursday before weigh-in. They eat constantly, everyday. So some of the Brazilians, guys like Vitor Belfort and Thiago Alves, love to tweet pictures of their food like, ‘I can’t believe it’s fight week and I’m eating pancakes today!’

A guy might be 22 pounds over fight week but we’re still feeding them dinner, feeding the metabolism and making it faster. We make the fighter feel strong and feel fresh so they have the energy to get out there and cut weight. I have them cut weight by feeding them instead of starving and suffering.


"There was no food in the apartment, and he never told me what to eat. That’s the first thing I thought after the fight, was that I should have just filled this place with food and not listened to Dolce. But when you pay someone that kind of money, you entrust them to do their job and take that off your hands." -BJ Penn

He payed Dolce $22,000 for 21 days of work.
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Mar 14 2015 02:47pm
Quote (Shadowoffury @ Mar 14 2015 03:39pm)
"There was no food in the apartment, and he never told me what to eat. That’s the first thing I thought after the fight, was that I should have just filled this place with food and not listened to Dolce. But when you pay someone that kind of money, you entrust them to do their job and take that off your hands." -BJ Penn

He payed Dolce $22,000 for 21 days of work.


BJ is a bitch when he loses. Is it abnormal for him to cry and make excuses when shit didn't go his way? You also missed the part where he flew out Dolce 3 weeks before weigh in because he couldnt cut the weight himself and didn't listen to him much or train everyday.

HE also blamed his striking trainer for losing as well as dolce on that fight, as talented as he is, he acts like a bitch in his losses


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Lets see one bad review from a person who makes excuses to the hundreds of success story's from everyone else in the circuit.... hmmmmmmmmmmm

This post was edited by lxxgatmanxxl on Mar 14 2015 02:49pm
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Mar 14 2015 02:52pm
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BJ is a bitch when he loses. Is it abnormal for him to cry and make excuses when shit didn't go his way? You also missed the part where he flew out Dolce 3 weeks before weigh in and didn't listen to him much or train everyday.

HE also blamed his striking trainer for losing as well as dolce on that fight, as talented as he is, he acts like a bitch in his losses


Lol I know that Dolce said BJ didn't listen to him, but if that's the case how did he lose the 40+lbs?

I don't think it's Dolce's fault that BJ lost, but I think that the things BJ said about Dolce are true, because why would he lie about that? Why would he say Dolce put basically no food in the house if as Dolce said it was actually completely full of food? It makes perfect sense why Dolce would lie about that, that's his business.

And, again. Read the Dolce diet and you'll see that regardless of what he says in interviews, once you pay $49.95 for that pamphlet all it does is tell you to eat an alarmingly low amount of calories...
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Mar 14 2015 02:56pm
Ofcourse everyone backs up what Dolce says... he successfully helps them cut weight. All I'm saying is that he lies about how he accomplishes that in order to get people to buy into paying tens of thousands of dollars for something that Welterweight could probably do. There's literally no way that he doubles their caloric intake and still gets them to lose 40lb in 3 weeks, how do you think that's possible?

If Dolce could do that he would have revolutionized nutrition :D

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Mar 14 2015 03:00pm
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Ofcourse everyone backs up what Dolce says... he successfully helps them cut weight. All I'm saying is that he lies about how he accomplishes that in order to get people to buy into paying tens of thousands of dollars for something that Welterweight could probably do. There's literally no way that he doubles their caloric intake and still gets them to lose 40lb in 3 weeks, how do you think that's possible?


He doesn't work with them in a time frame of 3 weeks.... Uhg..
He starts minimum 5 weeks, more often around 8 for the big weight cuts.
He changes their diet and optimizes it, he is more knowledgeable in foods then most fighters.

BJ Penn had him come out 3 weeks cause hes a dumbass who wasn't 100% committed to his advice and still made weight.
He doesn't even guarentee that you make weight, he just makes sure you do it as healthy as possible.


There is easily ways to get athletes to eat more calories with a schedule and healthier foods and still lose weight. Do you understand how your metabolism works?
There is overweight people who just don't understand how their metabolism works, they wish to lose weight sometimes even going to the gym daily but they don't eat breakfast to start their metabolism and eat unhealthy and unregulated.
I know people who I have helped aided them in losing a ton of weight just by suggesting starting with an apple for breakfast as most people do not eat breakfast. As soon as they start their metabolism early and keep it active often the weight comes off fast.

This post was edited by lxxgatmanxxl on Mar 14 2015 03:04pm
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Mar 14 2015 03:51pm
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7/10


Tyvm men

Quote (MattBrown @ Mar 14 2015 12:07pm)
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If the Negro ejaculates inside the shiksa, it's even better because the white male has to think about raising the mulatto baby, thus adding to his humiliation.

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May or may not have pissed a little in me pants laughing at dat
Fking lol
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Mar 14 2015 04:05pm
Quote (ComicsMan @ Mar 14 2015 02:43pm)
Mma diet? Lmao.

Mousasi said it best, ''it's all bullshit, animals/predators just eat what they got, one time a lot, other time a little''.

No bro science dolce crap is needed... especially not when you are a HW.
Unless you want to argue Dolce was a better fighter than Mousasi? No right?

Even the guy in your sig has big ass guns for a little guy.


I kept reading your replies for the lols and I had to stop at this one.
Let's clear some things up here you overly intelligent master-race genetically animalistic Dutchman:

Overeem took steroids
Chuck Liddell beat his arse before he started taking needles in his ass
Stop hanging on to this doctor thing and acting like you know anything about what went down
Dolce as a fighter has nothing to do with his skills as a nutritionist(and I don't even like that guy)
Overeem nor Mousasi are apex predators hunting in the wilderness, no matter how much Overeem resembles a gorilla or not
That "science dolce crap" - which is what most working men with a brain will call 'Nutrition' - is the backbone to these fighters lifestyles
Overeem is half Dutch
Overeem isn't from the Netherlands
You can stop living your fantasy life now boy
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Mar 14 2015 04:07pm
Quote (Juventus @ Mar 14 2015 11:05pm)
I kept reading your replies for the lols and I had to stop at this one.
Let's clear some things up here you overly intelligent master-race genetically animalistic Dutchman:

Overeem took steroids
Chuck Liddell beat his arse before he started taking needles in his ass
Stop hanging on to this doctor thing and acting like you know anything about what went down
Dolce as a fighter has nothing to do with his skills as a nutritionist(and I don't even like that guy)
Overeem nor Mousasi are apex predators hunting in the wilderness, no matter how much Overeem resembles a gorilla or not
That "science dolce crap" - which is what most working men with a brain will call 'Nutrition' - is the backbone to these fighters lifestyles
Overeem is half Dutch
Overeem isn't from the Netherlands
You can stop living your fantasy life now boy


YOUR... ATTEMPTS... ARE... FUTILE...
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Mar 14 2015 04:34pm
Quote (lxxgatmanxxl @ Mar 14 2015 04:00pm)
He doesn't work with them in a time frame of 3 weeks.... Uhg..
He starts minimum 5 weeks, more often around 8 for the big weight cuts.
He changes their diet and optimizes it, he is more knowledgeable in foods then most fighters.

BJ Penn had him come out 3 weeks cause hes a dumbass who wasn't 100% committed to his advice and still made weight.
He doesn't even guarentee that you make weight, he just makes sure you do it as healthy as possible.


There is easily ways to get athletes to eat more calories with a schedule and healthier foods and still lose weight. Do you understand how your metabolism works?
There is overweight people who just don't understand how their metabolism works, they wish to lose weight sometimes even going to the gym daily but they don't eat breakfast to start their metabolism and eat unhealthy and unregulated.
I know people who I have helped aided them in losing a ton of weight just by suggesting starting with an apple for breakfast as most people do not eat breakfast. As soon as they start their metabolism early and keep it active often the weight comes off fast.


lol maybe with a slight increase... but double, really? bigfoot was probably already eating 5000-7000 kcal/day, because he's a heavyweight fighter. You think Dolce gave him 10-15k and still made him lose weight? it's not possible without some pretty unhealthy medications or illnesses...

You can keep believing that if you want tho
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