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Jul 17 2020 05:02pm
Quote (HomeRun916 @ Jul 17 2020 07:50pm)
lol at only capitalizing Conor. Aldo and Mendes are people as well.



Hell of a performance, but doesn't mean a thing when you retire in your prime.


Im surprised you caught that lol.

251 was a little painful eh? I really wanted him to win.

Quote (HomeRun916 @ Jul 17 2020 07:52pm)
Conor reminds me a lot of Barry Sanders/Calvin Johnson. When he did show up was about unstoppable. But for whatever reason, just didn't have the drive to finish off there careers as they started.


Yea, its a shame.
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Jul 17 2020 05:04pm
Quote (Fromage @ Jul 17 2020 04:02pm)
Im surprised you caught that lol.

251 was a little painful eh? I really wanted him to win.



Yea, its a shame.


If you realize that he is the only one wasting his potential prime athletic potential because he chooses to sit out, why do you support that?
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Jul 17 2020 05:06pm
Quote (HomeRun916 @ Jul 17 2020 08:04pm)
If you realize that he is the only one wasting his potential prime athletic potential because he chooses to sit out, why do you support that?


I don't support that.

Its really black and white, I think he is a great fighter with a unique skill set.

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Jul 17 2020 05:10pm
Quote (Fromage @ Jul 17 2020 04:06pm)
I don't support that.

Its really black and white, I think he is a great fighter with a unique skill set.


You said he managed his career "better than anyone in MMA"

I feel like that is supporting his stupid decisions.

The man has retired twice by the age of 32.
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Jul 17 2020 05:12pm
Quote (HomeRun916 @ Jul 17 2020 08:10pm)
You said he managed his career "better than anyone in MMA"

I feel like that is supporting his stupid decisions.

The man has retired twice by the age of 32.


He could stay retired and his career was still managed better. He took every opportunity to keep moving further on his come up, did things no other fighter has done.

A lot has to do with his personality of course, but his skillset backed up every thing he said. Most of the time atleast lmao.

I don't support his decision to retire because im selfish and want to see him fight, like everyone else, but who are we to dictate what a person does with their career?
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Jul 17 2020 05:18pm
Quote (Fromage @ Jul 17 2020 04:12pm)
He could stay retired and his career was still managed better. He took every opportunity to keep moving further on his come up, did things no other fighter has done.

A lot has to do with his personality of course, but his skillset backed up every thing he said. Most of the time atleast lmao.

I don't support his decision to retire because im selfish and want to see him fight, like everyone else, but who are we to dictate what a person does with their career?


If you think that is an acceptable path of a professional fighter, I don't know what to tell ya.

Guys fighting next like Shogun and Lil Nog have careers worth mentioning.
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Jul 17 2020 05:23pm
Quote (HomeRun916 @ Jul 17 2020 08:18pm)
If you think that is an acceptable path of a professional fighter, I don't know what to tell ya.

Guys fighting next like Shogun and Lil Nog have careers worth mentioning.


MMA is not just your every day career, if you knock a fighter for getting out young without permanent damage, I don't know what to tell ya.

It all comes down to hypocrisy, if ANY other fighter retired young and on top you guys would praise his decision. It's pretty pathetic, I hope you can see from this perspective.

edit; There are also a lot of external factors, people like Shogun and Lil Nog NEED to fight to financially survive.

This post was edited by Fromage on Jul 17 2020 05:25pm
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Quote (Fromage @ Jul 17 2020 01:26pm)
No one was stopping Conor at 145 except a stronger wrestler than chad mendes.

Conor would of beaten aldo again, maybe not in 13 seconds, but he would of destroyed him again.

My point im trying to make is a lot of you people weigh defenses as some sort of all or nothing idea, that if a fighter doesnt have defenses despite showing next level skills and cleaning out his division, he isnt good.

Its sillly

And the argument isnt if hes goat or not here, its who managed their career better. A fighter doesnt have to be the "goat" to recongize their skillset. Yet a lot of you dismiss his abilitites simply because you don't like his personality or he didn't defend belts. Any reason to hate.


@bold: i think ppl dismiss his abilities because they started to realize that once conor didnt have a weight/reach advantage, he wasnt all that special. i dont think he was overrated to the point of sage northcutt or anything..but maybe just slightly? lot of conor fans seem to think he is better than he actually is.

i do think he is a pretty good fighter tho overall. ive always praised him for his ability to manage distance and have impeccable timing.

as far as managing career..i dont see why anyone would argue about that lol. conor did a fantastic job in promoting himself and making money (altho most of that money didnt even come from MMA lol). but as far as fightinb ability/skilset wise, plenty of fighters are better imo.

when it comes to title defense, people bring it up cuz thats what solidifies someone being a great fighter/champion. anyone can get a fluke win or just have a couple great nights and win a title (bisping for example) but its defending the belt afterward that proves u are actually good enough to be a champion. like many of previous champions have stated, its harder to defend the belt than to obtain it. ur example of defending 10 titles against bums isnt really a good example and isnt valid imo. if ur the champ, more often than not ur opponents wouldnt be bums. people wanted to see conor defend his belt agasint tougher opponents because that's what other champs did. thats the reason why his "haters" constantly bring it up since its an actual valid point.

Quote (Fromage @ Jul 17 2020 04:02pm)
Im surprised you caught that lol.

251 was a little painful eh? I really wanted him to win.



Yea, its a shame.


lol and u say ur not biased towards conor :p
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Jul 18 2020 07:46am
Quote (HomeRun916 @ Jul 17 2020 07:18pm)
If you think that is an acceptable path of a professional fighter, I don't know what to tell ya.

Guys fighting next like Shogun and Lil Nog have careers worth mentioning.



At the end of the day they’re humans, not show puppets for our entertainment. Seeing fighters protect themselves should be a good thing. He’s right that conor managed his career better than anyone else, the money speaks for itself. He was a genius at self promoting. I’m with you tho, a selfish part of me wants him fighting 3-4 times a year for our entertainment but can you blame the man? He’s got enough money for several lifetimes and has taken a pretty small amount of damage throughout his career compared to most fighters. I imagine motivation would be hard to find when you have 100+ mil in the bank as opposed to fighting to feed yourself.

This post was edited by MrDuDu on Jul 18 2020 07:47am
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Jul 18 2020 08:29am
"not all that special"

LMFAOO


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