Quote (FatZero @ Jun 14 2011 06:31am)

This isn't even worthy of an intelligence response.

By this thought process Sumo is practiced by the US military.

Quote (MrJoshua @ 13 Jun 2011 23:36)

I'm sure principals of sumo are shared with the US military.


Like to knock your opponent off balance.


I said it broadly on purpose.

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"I would really suggest Krav Maga, it was developed in Isreal and is mostly used by the military/police personel including the isreali special forces, and is even part of the cirriculum I believe for many of the unarmed combat courses taught in USA's various branches of the military."

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I said it "vaguely" on purpose, because it was not a critical statement and I wanted it to be left open to interpretation somewhat.


but no matter how you look at it, with my interpretation it is correct and the way I intended it to be taken, is correct.

Quote (FatZero @ Jun 14 2011 06:37am)

You didn't state it broadly.

Let me quote you for your own reference.



You falsely represented Krav Maga as an articulate of the US military's combative training regiment and used a weak fringe argument to support your vague and inaccurate statement.

Clearly you didn't intend for this to be representative that a "jab" was going to be the defining factor that "Krav Maga is part of the "cirriculum"

Quote (00001111 @ Jun 14 2011 06:40am)

i will punch u in the face and your wing chun will be nulled come at me with that bullshit ill knock u out. lol

Quote (MrJoshua @ Jun 13 2011 11:45pm)

he could be right


but he could just as easily be wrong


perhaps he has never heard of the "centerline" theory, and how it applies to simultaneous striking/deflecting


I'd like to see him come in and throw some straight jabs at a true trapping expert...

Quote (00001111 @ Jun 14 2011 08:49am)

lol..jabs seem to work fine for anderson silva lmk

Quote (MrJoshua @ Jun 14 2011 12:10am)

I am enrolled in a jeet kune do school, my sifu is a direct student of dan inosanto, who was a direct student of bruce lee; If you know bruce lee you definately should know JKD is wing chun based.


I actually kind of like the attitude of wing chun more than most other martial arts because it seems like it is more onslaught until the threat is gone versus being part of  and intermixed with the chaos(in a situation with multiple attackers)

All of these people telling you BJJ for real life combat are either complete idiots or just to much of a fanboy of UFC to know what they are talking about.


In a real life situation the last place you want to be is fighting from the ground, you'd be better off doing like you said and just slipping away and running.


in terms of lethality, one defining line for the police to use deadly force is if they are up against a hard object, such as a brick wall or the ground, if they are being attacked while pressed against such an object they have the choice to respond with deadly force (I.E. beat you to death, or shoot you)


If you kick someone in the head, their legs/back/head/neck can all pivot backwards and absorb some of the force. also your skull has a certain bit of flexibility or give, even if it is unnoticable in terms of human senses.


But if you have your head against the wall or the ground your head has no where to go and the only absorbing force is that formentioned flexibility of the skull, which in itself can cause brain damage, so your brain is aborbing 99%, if not all of the force.



Especially in the situation where you mentioned "a trap" for your drugs or what have you, that would more than likely be set up by multiple offenders, so while you're on the ground dilly dallying around playing fag cuddle with one of the offenders appendages, another one has already run off with your supplies, and one or two more of them are busy stomping on your head while you hold the other one for comfort.



In a real life situation, standing and punching, kicking, trying to yank and pull away would be in my opinion more effective, and MUCH SAFER.


Wing Chun is a good choice my man, a lot of its moves teach you to knock down your opponent while keeping your balance and staying on your feet, which will open that window for you to escape.


The only really criticizing comments I have is that as I assume a paramedic or ambulance driver you are most likely in a confined space, and even sometimes encumbered with bags/carts/boxes/carrying a patient, and wing chun is not really as suited for confined spaces or having your hands full/encumbered.


For someone that is in a confined space or carrying stuff/wearing a uniform/accessories, etc; I would really suggest Krav Maga, it was developed in Isreal and is mostly used by the military/police personel including the isreali special forces, and is even part of the cirriculum I believe for many of the unarmed combat courses taught in USA's various branches of the military.


I hope this helps, or at least not TL;DR



INB4TLDR

Quote (MrJoshua @ Jun 13 2011 10:39pm)

thats still pretty broad, I said part of the cirriculum, even if it is only a ten second lesson, it is still part of the cirriculum

i never said which part, i never said or intended to imply that they reffer to it as krav maga, it just means that principals are taken from ,or even shared with krav maga.



Like I said, is  it just me? or do you really like to get anal and argue?

Quote (MrJoshua @ 13 Jun 2011 22:10)

All of these people telling you BJJ for real life combat are either complete idiots or just to much of a fanboy of UFC to know what they are talking about.

In a real life situation the last place you want to be is fighting from the ground