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Jan 14 2015 01:05pm
Quote (lxxgatmanxxl @ Jan 14 2015 10:54am)
Okay doctor

maybe if he didnt cry all his Test out we'd have a more accurate reading


that was a dumb rebuttal
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Jan 14 2015 01:24pm
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Wow dudes a savage, never stopped. He'll be short of sparring partners soon :rofl:

Quote (JiuJitsu @ Jan 14 2015 02:05pm)
that was a dumb rebuttal


Not really man you should work for TMZ, you match DCs highest test to epi level with Jones lowest. If you go low to low its .19 vs .40

You must really be a meatball my friend. Multiple tests. The only thing DC was recovering from was a cycle just like Jones

anyhow you can make a case for none of them using PEDS. Both could have been over trained, changed dieting, cut weight, Jones partying abusing drugs/alcohol, DC's age ,

But to come back to where both of them WERE using you are looking at a RATIO OF TESTOSTERONE TO EPITESTOSTERONE!!!

No one has talked about the value of test or epitest by themselves...

DC: Normal testosterone levels / really high epitestosterone levels ( indicator on the high epitest )
His testosterone levels were 50 ng/ml in the first test and 70 ng/ml in the second while the average is 45.8 ng/ml and the range for an average male is 30-60 ng/ml.
His eiptestotsterone would be 125 ng/nl and 145 ng/ml respectively with the averagenrange also being 30-60 ng/ml.


Jones: Really low test levels and low epitest levels. ( Lower test lvls then Sonnen, Vitor, and overreem Post bust.)
Got to cut out this edit , g2g fellas.

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Jan 14 2015 01:43pm
Quote (lxxgatmanxxl @ Jan 14 2015 01:24pm)
Wow dudes a savage, never stopped. He'll be short of sparring partners soon :rofl:



Not really man you should work for TMZ, you match DCs highest test to epi level with Jones lowest. If you go low to low its .19 vs .40

You must really be a meatball my friend. Multiple tests. The only thing DC was recovering from was a cycle justlike Jones


The last few punches looked like feather taps. Im not sure if he believed he was out... or he was going until the ref came in?

Was a legit knee though. That accuracy is fucking insane.
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Jan 14 2015 01:43pm
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:blink: it's real, just not in real-time. Watch the actual video and you'll see he wasn't hitting hard at all, and the guy is def not knocked out. The guy knows he isn't in Chute Boxe any more.
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Jan 14 2015 01:45pm
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The last few punches looked like feather taps. Im not sure if he believed he was out... or he was going until the ref came in?

Was a legit knee though. That accuracy is fucking insane.


The knee was nowhere near full power, that video is sped up. Anderson is saying "vamos, vamos, vamos" while just barely tapping him when he goes down.
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Jan 14 2015 01:50pm
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The knee was nowhere near full power, that video is sped up.  Anderson is saying "vamos, vamos, vamos" while just barely tapping him when he goes down.


I didnt think it looked like he went full. But it looked liked it landed to me. The accuracy was what I was impressed about. Even after being out for a year he still put it in the perfect spot while running forward. Its just body control you dont see in very many fighters.

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Jan 14 2015 02:24pm
Quote (lxxgatmanxxl @ Jan 14 2015 12:24pm)
Wow dudes a savage, never stopped. He'll be short of sparring partners soon :rofl:



Not really man you should work for TMZ, you match DCs highest test to epi level with Jones lowest. If you go low to low its .19 vs .40

You must really be a meatball my friend. Multiple tests. The only thing DC was recovering from was a cycle just like Jones

anyhow you can make a case for none of them using PEDS. Both could have been over trained, changed dieting, cut weight, Jones partying abusing drugs/alcohol, DC's age ,

But to come back to where both of them WERE using you are looking at a RATIO OF TESTOSTERONE TO EPITESTOSTERONE!!!

No one has talked about the value of test or epitest by themselves...

DC: Normal testosterone levels / really high epitestosterone levels ( indicator on the high epitest )
His testosterone levels were 50 ng/ml in the first test and 70 ng/ml in the second while the average is 45.8 ng/ml and the range for an average male is 30-60 ng/ml.
His eiptestotsterone would be 125 ng/nl and 145 ng/ml respectively with the averagenrange also being 30-60 ng/ml.


Jones: Really low test levels and low epitest levels. ( Lower test lvls then Sonnen, Vitor, and overreem Post bust.)
Got to cut out this edit , g2g fellas.


even dc's lowest is barely of any concern, jones testing lower than the average female is a concern, period
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Jan 14 2015 05:02pm
Quote (JiuJitsu @ Jan 14 2015 03:24pm)
even dc's lowest is barely of any concern,  jones testing lower than the average female is a concern, period


I don't even think you understand what t/e is. Google is your friend mate... Dc's epitestosterone is double the average for a reason.

I'd say he cycled off about a week or less earlier then Jones and stayed off where Jones got back on it at some point after his initial pre fight testing. Dcs epitestosterone being more then twice the ng/ml of his testosterone is a red flag just as how high Jones epitestosterone was on his post fight test.

NASC needs to do blood tests which are definitively more accurate. Piss tests are easier to fool when you are expecting it given that the fighters have hours or the night to show up for it.

Jones also could have easily been taking a stronger PED then his competitor and I believe this given the test results.
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Jan 14 2015 05:02pm
Dana White: Kelvin Gastelum could earn title shot with win over Tyron Woodley

it's like you need to be American to get a title shot

edit: I know it's probably because Dana doesn't want Rory champ when GSP comes back

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