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Dec 2 2014 05:22pm
Retirement fight

Josh Koscheck vs Jake Ellenberger
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Dec 2 2014 05:59pm
Quote (StephanePare @ Dec 2 2014 05:49pm)
The gloves are fine, the guys can close their hands just fine when trying to grapple. The problem isn't the gloves, it's the rules and how they're enforced.

Make it a, loss by disqualification if a fight is stopped due to an eye poke, I guarantee eye pokes will disappear entirely and no one will talk about the gloves anymore.


The problem is that the fight isn't always stopped, in fact it almost never is... And then the fighter who got poked in the eye is at a disadvantage, not just because he might have a problem with his eye, but because his reflexes are going to try to keep him from getting poked in the eye again, which shouldn't be necessary.

Have you ever worn ufc gloves? You can close your hand, obviously, but that's not the problem, the problem is that if you aren't trying to hold a fist the gloves are naturally going to open your hand up. They almost become a strain to wear after a while. There is no reason for them to be like that. Pride gloves are a lot better for that reason alone.

Other reasons pride gloves are superior:
Lace-up allows for much tighter gloves
thumb loop adds stability for grappling
completely open palm increases dexterity for grappling

But I think the pride style gloves could use a bit of improvement too, most notably I think the finger loops should be a bit wider, if you have small hands your fingers can slip out of them.


I've never heard of anyone who has used both and prefers the UFC gloves... Dana has even agreed that the UFC gloves are not ideal. They've talked about changing them for years.
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Dec 2 2014 06:07pm
Quote (KrWWW @ Dec 2 2014 03:22pm)
Retirement fight

Josh Koscheck vs Jake Ellenberger


Nice.
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Dec 2 2014 06:09pm
Quote (Shadowoffury @ Dec 2 2014 06:59pm)
The problem is that the fight isn't always stopped, in fact it almost never is...  And then the fighter who got poked in the eye is at a disadvantage, not just because he might have a problem with his eye, but because his reflexes are going to try to keep him from getting poked in the eye again, which shouldn't be necessary.

Have you ever worn ufc gloves?  You can close your hand, obviously, but that's not the problem, the problem is that if you aren't trying to hold a fist the gloves are naturally going to open your hand up.  They almost become a strain to wear after a while.  There is no reason for them to be like that.  Pride gloves are a lot better for that reason alone.

Other reasons pride gloves are superior:
Lace-up allows for much tighter gloves
thumb loop adds stability for grappling
completely open palm increases dexterity for grappling

But I think the pride style gloves could use a bit of improvement too, most notably I think the finger loops should be a bit wider, if you have small hands your fingers can slip out of them.


I've never heard of anyone who has used both and prefers the UFC gloves...  Dana has even agreed that the UFC gloves are not ideal.  They've talked about changing them for years.


oh yeah was pride gloves not bellator gloves my bad lol
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Dec 2 2014 06:16pm
Quote (Shadowoffury @ 2 Dec 2014 19:59)
The problem is that the fight isn't always stopped, in fact it almost never is...  And then the fighter who got poked in the eye is at a disadvantage, not just because he might have a problem with his eye, but because his reflexes are going to try to keep him from getting poked in the eye again, which shouldn't be necessary.

Have you ever worn ufc gloves?  You can close your hand, obviously, but that's not the problem, the problem is that if you aren't trying to hold a fist the gloves are naturally going to open your hand up.  They almost become a strain to wear after a while.  There is no reason for them to be like that.  Pride gloves are a lot better for that reason alone.

Other reasons pride gloves are superior:
Lace-up allows for much tighter gloves
thumb loop adds stability for grappling
completely open palm increases dexterity for grappling

But I think the pride style gloves could use a bit of improvement too, most notably I think the finger loops should be a bit wider, if you have small hands your fingers can slip out of them.


I've never heard of anyone who has used both and prefers the UFC gloves...  Dana has even agreed that the UFC gloves are not ideal.  They've talked about changing them for years.


Give doctors a, hair trigger on stopping the fight then, that's all. Lots of guys fight through it because they don't want to be declared tko. If this rule was in effect, they would have no incentive to play though guy anymore, and fakers can't fool competent doctors.

I agree that it's probably annoying the way the gloves are, but I'd rather change a, dangerous rule than a, sub optimal gear piece as a first step.
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Dec 2 2014 08:56pm
Quote (StephanePare @ Dec 2 2014 07:16pm)
Give doctors a, hair trigger on stopping the fight then, that's all. Lots of guys fight through it because they don't want to be declared tko. If this rule was in effect, they would have no incentive to play though guy anymore, and fakers can't fool competent doctors.

I agree that it's probably annoying the way the gloves are, but I'd rather change a, dangerous rule than a, sub optimal gear piece as a first step.


lol I'd rather go the route that results in less stoppages due to eye pokes, not more...
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Dec 2 2014 10:41pm
Quote (KrWWW @ Dec 2 2014 07:22pm)
Retirement fight

Josh Koscheck vs Jake Ellenberger


what happened to magny?
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Dec 2 2014 10:49pm
Quote (Gamer26 @ Dec 2 2014 08:41pm)
what happened to magny?


UFC said fuck that
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Dec 2 2014 11:10pm
Quote (Flicker69 @ 2 Dec 2014 23:49)
UFC said fuck that


it was never confirmed, just rumor'd.
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Dec 2 2014 11:17pm
Quote (trashman @ Dec 3 2014 01:10am)
it was never confirmed, just rumor'd.


ohhh

Quote (Flicker69 @ Dec 3 2014 12:49am)
UFC said fuck that


ohhhhhh
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