Quote (Shadowoffury @ 10 Oct 2014 03:03)
Freemasons are in War and Peace, because that guy uhhh fuck I can't remember his first name, count Bolkonsky's(sp) son joins them, but the illuminati isn't mentioned, right?
The original illuminati was founded in Germany over 600 years after the order of rebirth in sion(which famously branched off into the knights templar, freemasonry, etc) was founded in or around Jerusalem. I don't think the illuminati had anything to do with freemasonry, mostly based on the fact that freemasonry is a religion and the illumati was an anti-religious institution.
Quote (Shadowoffury @ 10 Oct 2014 03:03)
Freemasons are in War and Peace, because that guy uhhh fuck I can't remember his first name, count Bolkonsky's(sp) son joins them, but the illuminati isn't mentioned, right?
The original illuminati was founded in Germany over 600 years after the order of rebirth in sion(which famously branched off into the knights templar, freemasonry, etc) was founded in or around Jerusalem. I don't think the illuminati had anything to do with freemasonry, mostly based on the fact that freemasonry is a religion and the illumati was an anti-religious institution.
I'm about halfway in.
Andrew Bolkonski doesn't join the freemasons (yet).
It's Pierre Behzukov (sp?) that joins the FreeMasons. The Illuminati are mentioned, but only in passing, when Pierre is mentally describing his fellow Masons in differing categories.
edit: ah, i misremembered.
they are mentioned, but not as a subgroup of the Masons. But indeed as an opposing idea.
http://www.online-literature.com/tolstoy/war_and_peace/113/This post was edited by hATemOnkEy on Oct 9 2014 07:12pm