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Jan 16 2020 07:35pm
send me 50fg and ill send you a site worthy of never paying for cable again
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He is not the norm, not even close. 1 of a kind in terms of UFC pay. There will likely be only a handful that fall into the same category as him through the upcoming years.

The hundreds of other fighters who don't make the main cards (or fill the "fight nights" etc) and share in PPV revenues but still make up the 99% of other fight cards, who make 10-20k, also get hit with 10%-20% trainer fees, manager fees, etc etc

Also, these are people training upwards of 3 months for that 1 night, so kinda unfair to assume they go out there for "one night of work".



I didn’t bother reading this but I hope it says something like.

Players need better agents to negotiate better terms on contracts after they have established their value.

Also that as a paying customer you inherently increase said value of said underpaid fighters.

Otherwise it’s like complaining about getting dicked by the government and finishing the rant with “and that’s why i don’t vote”
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I didn’t bother reading this but I hope it says something like.

Players need better agents to negotiate better terms on contracts after they have established their value.

Also that as a paying customer you inherently increase said value of said underpaid fighters.

Otherwise it’s like complaining about getting dicked by the government and finishing the rant with “and that’s why i don’t vote”



Lol

I actually laughed.
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Lol

I actually laughed.



Glad I could help you understand how the entertainment industry works!
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Jan 16 2020 09:03pm
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Glad I could help you understand how the entertainment industry works!



If Mcgregor was the sole person keeping the doors open at the UFC, you’d be onto something!

Thanks for the lesson, your experience and education really shine in your contribution.
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If Mcgregor was the sole person keeping the doors open at the UFC, you’d be onto something!

Thanks for the lesson, your experience and education really shine in your contribution.



All of the entertainment industry functions in this way.
It isn’t new.

Don’t pretend like you know a single clause in a single
Contract of any ufc fighter.
What you’re declared as salary and what the fighter walks away with is none of your business.
That said. If you want fighters to make more money.
Then pressure all your bum friends not to bootleg the fights.
Or buy that fighters merchandise.

It’s elementary.

Glad I could again be of help to broaden your narrow understanding of the monetization of the entertainment industry.
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Jan 16 2020 10:23pm
:rofl:

This post was edited by ALBINO_RHINO on Jan 16 2020 10:26pm
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Quote (Poonisher @ Jan 16 2020 10:47pm)
All of the entertainment industry functions in this way.
It isn’t new.

Don’t pretend like you know a single clause in a single
Contract of any ufc fighter.
What you’re declared as salary and what the fighter walks away with is none of your business.
That said. If you want fighters to make more money.
Then pressure all your bum friends not to bootleg the fights.
Or buy that fighters merchandise.

It’s elementary.

Glad I could again be of help to broaden your narrow understanding of the monetization of the entertainment industry.


Phone wacked out as I tried to edit

I've signed my fair share of fight contracts my friend, none under the UFC though. Trained with quite a few former and current guys. My initial statement was in regards to the hundreds of fighters not on PPV cards (the only place my bum friends who bootleging the fights really makes a difference).

You're clearly more knowledgeable on everything from contracts/purses, the inner workings of the costs associated with coaches and managers and everything in-between based on the articles you read on sherdog, so I'll let you win this one.

This post was edited by ALBINO_RHINO on Jan 16 2020 10:44pm
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Quote (ALBINO_RHINO @ Jan 16 2020 08:26pm)
Phone wacked out as I tried to edit

I've signed my fair share of fight contracts my friend, none under the UFC though. Trained with quite a few former and current guys. My initial statement was in regards to the hundreds of fighters not on PPV cards (the only place my bum friends who bootleging the fights really makes a difference).

You're clearly more knowledgeable on everything from contracts/purses, the inner workings of the costs associated with coaches and managers and everything in-between based on the articles you read on sherdog, so I'll let you win this one.



If you do indeed have relevant experience, which I honestly doubt you have anything greater than sparring sessions you claim to your bum friends are “events”
Your fundamental lack of understand goes even deeper than just how the entertainment industry pays out its key and secondary and tertiary players in generating revenue.

You lack a fundamental understanding on how capitalism works and the role in you as the consumer versus the ufc versus the fighter in all of this.

You’re the guy who just started a job he has no experience in and week 1 is talking unionization and a salary more in line with the veterans of the place.

Sign your garbage contract and kiss Dana whites feet while you serve it out.
Win more than you lose and be a stand out while you do it, effectively increasing your stock value.
Re negotiate new, improved contract.
Rinse repeat.

You complaining while pretending to know first hand how this always has and always will work is completely useless. Much like the ufc feels about new, unproven fighters.

You’re welcome again,
Even as someone who claims personal experience you were just still not getting it.

This post was edited by Poonisher on Jan 17 2020 10:18am
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If you do indeed have relevant experience, which I honestly doubt you have anything greater than sparring sessions you claim to your bum friends are “events”
Your fundamental lack of understand goes even deeper than just how the entertainment industry pays out its key and secondary and tertiary players in generating revenue.

You lack a fundamental understanding on how capitalism works and the role in you as the consumer versus the ufc versus the fighter in all of this.

You’re the guy who just started a job he has no experience in and week 1 is talking unionization and a salary more in line with the veterans of the place.

Sign your garbage contract and kiss Dana whites feet while you serve it out.
Win more than you lose and be a stand out while you do it, effectively increasing your stock value.
De negotiate new, improved contract.
Rinse repeat.

You complaining while pretending to know first hand how this always has and always will work is completely useless. Much like the ufc feels about new, unproven fighters.

You’re welcome again,
Even as someone who claims personal experience you were just still not getting it.


:lol:

And who are you? Someone with no first hand experience, no personal experience, who gets their information off of website reports and calls himself knowledgeable? My sparring sessions with these guys provide more insight than your fat ass will ever have reading online reports, so I'm not sure what he comparison is or your attempt to discredit.

You're so simple minded and don't seem to understand my initial statement. I think you're now just creating your own argument just to argue.

You can win here buddy, no one matches your extreme intelligence and experience in the cage. You clearly have rubbed shoulders with the most fighters and have in-depth knowledge that I just don't have access too.

Seeya!

This post was edited by ALBINO_RHINO on Jan 17 2020 11:01am
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