a solid guillotine is not a fun feeling let me tell ya lol

Kneebar has been most painful I've been in, and he didn't even rip it hard

Haven't been slicered yet

This post was edited by Starcrater on Oct 27 2017 02:19pm

I have knee and hips arthrosis and it does not hurt as much as a slicer. Yet Imma quick tapper

Armbar, kimura, ankle lock variations

What other subs have you been in? Does the level of jits the other guy have effect the ability to inflict more damage?

Like Werdum could grab any choke almost immediately, does that skill translate to tighter subs?



Hoipolli love you bud.

I totally understand where your coming from.

But on the police report “grown man broke children’s fingers off in fit of rage” is harder to explain than “grown man and child roughhousing, got a little out of hand and kids arm is broken”

Are you insinuating you're going to hurt devilslayer? Please don't, he's suffered enough.

all of them basically lol, skill level for sure plays a factor in pain infliction because a lot of it is how fast it's ripped in and at the proper technique
you can let somebody who hasn't arm barred before arm bar you all day and it not even hurt much if at all
speed hurts too, mostly because you don't get a chance to start to defend it which also plays a big factor
lot of variables and depends on the person defending as well, i'm better at defending certain subs and then there's certain subs i get caught in a lot more often

Sounds like you are pretty bad on the mat.

yeah it's weird, oddly enough people who've trained 5+ years longer than me tend to beat me