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Jul 27 2011 09:12am
Betting In The Martial Arts, Boxing, and Wrestling Forum v5.0
Disclaimer
    This is a public service announcement that is applicable for the Martial Arts, Boxing, and Wrestling (MABW) forum only. The content of this post is solely the opinion of the thread creator. D2JSP does not support or endorse betting and will not tag a welcher as a scammer.

    We are doing what we can to make this forum a safer place to bet for everyone. These are merely guidelines that may prevent any misunderstandings about bet confirmation. Feel free to let us know if you have any questions. We welcome your input and are happy to listen to new ideas. Keep in mind that we are volunteers, we do free work of our own free will and work hard to make improvements for the mutual benefit of all.

    This thread is pretty much the index for the forum and contains most of the helpful topics. If you bookmark/track nothing else, I strongly suggest you bookmark/track this thread.
Betting Tips
    If you're new to this forum, we recommend that you use a mediator. It may be slightly more of a hassle, but it helps ensure you receive your hard-earned FG. Make sure to read the mediator's rules located in his/her profile. More information about mediators below.

    Avoid betting via PM without making a thread if/when you do, make sure both parties confirm in-thread. When in doubt, put it in a thread. PMs make it more difficult to determine if a welch has occurred. Make the bet as transparent as possible in-thread where everyone can see. If you post a bet offer, make sure that both bettors reach an agreement before going offline. This means either calling off the bet, solidifying the bet, or stating if you'll be gone, such as saying "AFK", "Betting done for the night", etc.... When in doubt, use a mediator, that's why they're here.

    Please give the mediators time to pay out bets, make changes to the lists, and reply to PMs. Our PM boxes get very full very quickly. Please allow us sufficient time to process things as we volunteer our time. You can help us out and speed things up by sending the requested material, making sure you follow the rules in our profiles, and not spamming us with PMs.
Mediators
    Currently there are the following mediators (in alphabetical order): Havocide, lncarnaxim, MerleHaggard, monsta816, theduds07, and Wonderingsoul. Remember to follow the guidelines listed in their profiles, especially in regard to sending FG. MerleHaggard and lncarnaxim ask that you use the newer mediators for smaller bets. We will be happy to assist users with bets over 1000FG. In addition to mediating bets, lncarnaxim will also oversee additions to the bettor's list and script.
Obtaining 'Active' Status in the MABW Forum
    PM lncarnaxim with at least 8 bets from at least 6 different events. Links to betting threads are the best, but a screenshot of your gold log will be more than adequate. Please highlight or signify the relevant bets. Users will be removed from Active status due to forum inactivity. The entire list is checked periodically. To keep the list current, if you have not posted in the past 50 days (in any forum on D2JSP) you will be removed. A post every 7 weeks isn't that hard, is it? If you have been removed due to inactivity, you will need to resubmit betting links, SS's, etc...
Reporting A Welcher
    lncarnaxim will handle the welching accusations. Please provide him with as much evidence as you can (screenshots of PMs/gold logs, links to threads) to assist him. Be warned that if you intentionally try to falsely label someone as a welcher, this will only result in your own name being added to the list. Misunderstandings do happen, but let's just all try to get along. :D

    Threads with bet confirmation confusions are being tracked. Any user that has too many "questionable" threads may be put into the "Welcher" or "Redeemed Welcher" column. You are welcome to discuss disputes with lncarnaxim. We are not overly comfortable with holding users' reputations in our hands, but keep in mind that just because we find something to be unpleasant, doesn't mean we won't do it. Peace. :D

    Users who have welched in another forum will be added to the "Welcher - Other". We do not know how other subforums run their lists, therefore we set our own standard for people to follow if they want to bet in here. People who have welched in this forum will need to pay off any bets before placing any further bets. People who have welched in other forums will be allowed to bet, but it is highly suggested they do so with a mediator.
The MABW Scripts
    Current Version of Chrome Script: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/fndkolbibkpphjiicambmnmfhgadfnoj
    Current Version of Firefox Script: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/57344

    Like some of the other betting forums, we use a script that updates users on betting status (Mediator, Active, Welcher, etc...). You can read more about the Chrome and Firefox scripts here. These are the most current lists of bettor status in this sub-forum, so if you're using Firefox or Chrome, this is a handy tool. Additionally when using Firefox, if you click on the "MABW Bettor Status" text, it will bring up the most recent version of our bettors list image. In Chrome, simply click "MMA & Boxing Status:", then click it again in the pop-up window to bring up the image. Pretty nifty, huh?
Calculating & Finding Betting Odds
    Here is a thread for those of you that still have lingering questions about it. We all can get confused with it at times, but with a little practice and a calculator, betting odds should become pretty easy for you to figure out for this sub-forum. If you have any doubts, please post them in this thread or the one which talks about money line betting.
FAQ (New)
    What happens if fighter A wins, but the decision gets overturned?
      It usually takes awhile for drug tests, athletic commissions to review these matters. Unless otherwise specified in-thread, mediators will pay out bets as soon as they are able. An overwhelming majority of bettors are interested in receiving FG ASAP so we try and accommodate the bettors. Thankfully, overturned decisions don't happen too often.

    When will I get my FG?
      As soon as the med is able to pay out for the event.

    How long do I wait before reporting someone as a welcher?
      There's no set-in-stone time, but I would highly suggest waiting at least 24 hours. If you think it may take you longer than 24 hours to pay out a bet, as a courtesy to fellow bettors please notify them of this. There have been instances where I have not gone online so it wouldn't spoil the fight. I have clearly stated this in my betting thread so everyone was aware of it.
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Jul 27 2011 10:33am
First!

Perfectly structured and coherent for anyone user who is interested in betting.. Everything we need to know, thanks!
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Jul 27 2011 11:37am
what was changed in this version?
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Jul 27 2011 12:28pm
Quote (StephanePare @ Jul 27 2011 01:37pm)
what was changed in this version?


Added FAQ section, changed a lot of the mediation stuff and changed miscellaneous wording.
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Jul 27 2011 12:30pm
Thanks lncarnaxim!

Quote (StephanePare @ Jul 27 2011 09:37am)
what was changed in this version?


the FAQa, mediators and betting tips are new or updated, some of the language is more concise.
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Jul 27 2011 12:53pm
Removed me from mediator list to avoid confusion, added the portion about overturning decisions based on rule changes / drug tests :)


Looks great.
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Jul 29 2011 05:56pm
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Up for Evans vs Ortiz @ UFC 133!
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Quote (PRBJJ @ Aug 1 2011 09:13am)
Up for Evans vs Ortiz @ UFC 133!

what he said

This post was edited by theduds07 on Aug 5 2011 06:58pm
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