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Jun 5 2022 10:20am
Quote (DIABLOSRSGOD @ 5 Jun 2022 12:13)
They should have just used discord to send messages for updates as a group


100% or tinfoil hat on, maybe it was an elaborate scheme to screw over Meph
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Quote (DYEL @ Jun 5 2022 09:20am)
100% or tinfoil hat on, maybe it was an elaborate scheme to screw over Meph


Flood control msg excuse is stupid because it is his duty to make sure EVERYONE gets the message no matter what the JSP situation is for messaging (wait it out if u have to, then send the msg???)

Discord would have been nice and problem solving here. But Meph still only deserves soj refund id say

But i am also just here for +1s so it doesnt matter what I say really.

This post was edited by DIABLOSRSGOD on Jun 5 2022 10:24am
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Flood control msg excuse is stupid because it is his duty to make sure EVERYONE gets the message no matter what the JSP situation is for messaging (wait it out if u have to, then send the msg???) ^RussiaBank

MEPHlSTO fan has arrived!

Discord would have been nice and problem solving here.
Had you chose to message and contribute in discord, you get a message in discord.

Argument invalid.


You know the limits jsp has, don't be a newb, and cry for 3 days like this guy.

This post was edited by Fujiwara on Jun 5 2022 10:26am
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Quote (yjpan @ Jun 5 2022 11:08am)
what is the real life equivalent to this situitation so i can understand better?

if you bought a plane ticket and was given the wrong terminal, can you sue the plane company for damages?

does that change if you show up to the airport with 39 extra carry on bags? you were going to pick up some nice nfts to put in your bags to sell to a group of online cybergaming degenerates but cant anymore, so can you sue the airline for your potential losses?


Real life would be:
CEO goes to private investors with future plans for the company (this is all recorded and public info)
Investors make their preparations with this information they were given
CEO has deliberatly spread misinformation to his investors
Investors gets mad, they were duped
Investors starts a lawsuit
CEO goes to jail

some changes will have to be made since not every countrys law is the same but the outcome is equally probable

This post was edited by 5folingen on Jun 5 2022 10:29am
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Had you chose to message and contribute in discord, you get a message in discord.

Argument invalid.


You know the limits jsp has, don't be a newb, and cry for 3 days like this guy.


Read my previous comments bub, I am not on his side LOL. But what I said is more than a given.
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Read my previous comments bub, I am not on his side LOL. But what I said is more than a given.


1 person was missed out of EVERYONE. That person happens to have 40+ accounts camping the WRONG region.

Coincidence?

Then they post they want like 20x refunded because they suck? LOL They could have been more on top of things being $1,500+ invested into that many accounts. Complete newb mistake on their part. Time to cry and yell at everyone now. :wallbash: :wallbash: :bonk:

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Quote (Ethreain @ Jun 4 2022 08:46pm)
https://i.imgur.com/GMpaQr4.png
even naming some of his clients as "bots" and posting it on jsp
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Quick, report this to Blizzard!
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1 person was missed out of EVERYONE. That person happens to have 40+ accounts camping the WRONG region.

Coincidence?

Then they post they want like 20x refunded because they suck? LOL They could have been more on top of things being $1,500+ invested into that many accounts. Complete newb mistake on their post. Time to cry and yell at everyone now. :wallbash: :wallbash: :bonk:


Flood control is NOT a valid excuse to not make sure someone has recieved updated info.
This does not mean that Meph is entitled to "potential opportunity loss" but it means he gets his SOJ back and that Russiabank didnt communicate with all of his participants.
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Jun 5 2022 10:48am
Let's say the walk was cancelled altogether- is anyone realistically owed more than the 1 soj they contributed to begin with?

How is this situation any different?
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Jun 5 2022 10:53am
Ultimately the obsession with trying to hide the DClone walk from people who didn't donate was the downfall and cause of this whole thing. Following an updated mechanic in D2R that makes the DCone available to everyone on that realm - slightly counter-intuitive. It's almost 1 step forward 2 steps back.

As mentioned trying to "hide" the DClone walk by delaying the stream, saying "ops almost logged into the wrong realm - hehe", attempting to use 'sleight of hand' swapping to EU then spamming into the stream its "ITS EU, ITS EU, ITS EU" by which would be too late to swap realm as everyone had already loaded up in Asia as a result of the stream delay. Meant people not informed prior would miss the walk.

This also relates to the speed at which he sold the SoJs, unlike someone like MrLlamasc who made an event from spawning DClone, taking his time to sell them and enjoying the whole community lead event. Spam selling the SoJ's meant he could spawn Diablo BEFORE people had realised, combined with the stream delay and intentional misinformation.

My opinion would be:
1. If streaming the event on a community lead platform (Twitch), involve the community...

2. Otherwise, collect the SoJs in private (obviously announcing in public you are collecting them for a private DClone event), create a private group of the people that donated and organise to spawn DClone without involving the community. Meaning the only people who could obtain Anni's without donating and SoJ would be the unsuspected players at the time on whatever realm.

3. Floor control is not a valid excuse

#DramaAlertNation

For context I wasn't involved in the DClone event. Assumptions made post-event after watching the stream highlights and reading around the issue on JSP and Discord.

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