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Oct 29 2021 02:49pm
Quote (Mcbeefy @ Oct 29 2021 10:40pm)
Self report in this very thread. You're here to sabotage a competitor, and you've said so many times here. (And those posts are too old to edit now, sorry)

I.e.



Yeah, your motives aren't clear whatsoever. /s



I get that you're trying to use an appeal to your own authority here, but that won't work on me.

"Forcing" an IP could refer to a number of things, including manually brute-forcing with a simple IP filter.

In the end, you're just making a huge reach here and pretending it's a fact.

Again, because you have a financial steak in watching this 100% safe methodology fail at the expense of us, the consumers.

You don't give two shits if someone breaks Blizzard's TOS because YOU YOURSELF are an RMTer attempting to grift for a community of RMTers.

It's laughable, man.


I am not appealing to authority, I am stating facts still.

He is not my competitor as I have said a thousand times. I do not have associations to RMT shops selling annies. You trying to force this narrative over and over is just weak and basically a straw man argument and argument ad nauseam. Both fallacies.

You are now basically down to a soft ad hominem in your last 2 lines, seems like you are subconsciously starting to accept your loss and resorting to fallacies. Good.

This post was edited by netket on Oct 29 2021 02:59pm
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Quote (Mcbeefy @ Oct 29 2021 10:45pm)
The situation changes when you have everyone using IP filters and filling a single IP with as many people as you can cram into it.

No, it isn't conventional DDOSing that targets the entirety of a server, but if you don't think this has adverse effects for those playing on a hot server, you know less about networking than you lead on.

Especially when you consider how shitty Blizz's netcode and servers really are.


It has zero effects for people playing on hot ips. If you have played on a hot IP at the end of a walk you would know, and you SHOULD know since you actually DID play on a hot ip.

You are just grasping at straws at this point honestly. It's apparent to everyone.

This post was edited by netket on Oct 29 2021 02:55pm
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Oct 29 2021 03:00pm
Netket, if these runs are such horrible deals then people will stop buying into them. If they're good for them, they'll keep doing them.

Obviously the "value proposition" offered here is that players give up the possibility of multiple annis for a guarantee with low time investment. For players long invested in D-cloning it's a bad deal, but so what? Not everyone has the time or patience to spend hours and hours hunting on their own or enduring canceled runs. This guy here is 7/11 serving the people who can't or don't want to drive to Costco or Walmart. Let him be. Unless you're jealous that he figured out an aboveboard way to get a shitton of annis for himself.
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Oct 29 2021 03:02pm
Quote (netket @ Oct 29 2021 01:49pm)
I am not appealing to authority, I am stating facts still.

He is not my competitor as I have said a thousand times. I do not have associations to RMT shops selling annies. You trying to force this narrative over and over is just weak and basically a straw man argument.

You are now basically down to a soft ad hominem in your last 2 lines, seems like you are subconsciously starting to accept your loss and resorting to fallacies. Good.


Hmm, so what did you mean by all of this?

Quote (netket @ Oct 29 2021 11:20am)

Blue: "projecting" Who is projecting bro? How am I projecting insecurities? You think this is an automatic argument winner so you gonna just use "projection" any time you can? Projecting would be me saying something like "You guys are all just greedy and want money!!" I havent engaged in these kind of statements, I just explained my displeasure with one person monopolizing the market.

Yeah, my "cash cow" is getting milked by somebody else. But not only my cash cow, 300 other folks' cash cow as well who have been active and engaged in the community runs. And it will all go to one person, yes. And any sane and rational person (who is not coming from a place of bitterness like you) can see that this is not a good thing for the community.


Quote (netket @ Oct 29 2021 09:41am)

i dont know if you did. i didnt read your low iq bullshit

but one glimpse at the bolded part I can tell you are coming from a place of bitterness and poorness of not being able to profit from the market like others. reason being is your lower than average intelligence or lack of friends/community

so no, you probably didnt hit anything on the head


You were totally just talking about fg profits, right? /s

Stop trying to backtrack and own up to the grift, buddy.

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Oct 29 2021 03:04pm
Quote (netket @ Oct 29 2021 01:54pm)
It has zero effects for people playing on hot ips. If you have played on a hot IP at the end of a walk you would know, and you SHOULD know since you actually DID play on a hot ip.

You are just grasping at straws at this point honestly. It's apparent to everyone.


I get that English isn't your first language, but you don't need to keep copying things I've said, lol.

In fact, we all had the chat bug (chat-server-based lag) and a few people straight-up lost their connections standing in town.

Anyone who was there can confirm this, and it happens all the time with these events.
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Quote (Hizkuntza @ Oct 29 2021 11:00pm)
Netket, if these runs are such horrible deals then people will stop buying into them. If they're good for them, they'll keep doing them.

Obviously the "value proposition" offered here is that players give up the possibility of multiple annis for a guarantee with low time investment. For players long invested in D-cloning it's a bad deal, but so what? Not everyone has the time or patience to spend hours and hours hunting on their own or enduring canceled runs. This guy here is 7/11 serving the people who can't or don't want to drive to Costco or Walmart. Let him be. Unless you're jealous that he figured out an aboveboard way to get a shitton of annis for himself.


That is kind of like saying: If it's not a good deal for poor people to have their votes bought for 10$ lunch coupons, then they will stop accepting those deals. The other candidate who isnt using such methods is just jealous that the cheating candidate is buying votes for himself resourcefully.

This is a computer game so it's kind of a wild west for abusers like this. But in real life such unethical behaviour would be sanctioned by law most definitely.
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Oct 29 2021 03:09pm
Quote (netket @ Oct 29 2021 02:05pm)
That is kind of like saying: If it's not a good deal for poor people to have their votes bought for 10$ lunch coupons, then they will stop accepting those deals. The other candidate who isnt using such methods is just jealous that the cheating candidate is buying votes for himself resourcefully.

This is a computer game so it's kind of a wild west for abusers like this. But in real life such unethical behaviour would be sanctioned by law most definitely.


This is such a false equivalency I think I lost the few IQ points you claimed I had left.
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Oct 29 2021 03:12pm
Quote (Mcbeefy @ Oct 29 2021 11:02pm)
Hmm, so what did you mean by all of this?





You were totally just talking about fg profits, right? /s

Stop trying to backtrack and own up to the grift, buddy.


Yes, I was talking about fg profits. You are making completely false assumptions still.

You are arguing in bad faith still and using argument ad nauseam which is a fallacy in itself.

Quote (Mcbeefy @ Oct 29 2021 11:04pm)
I get that English isn't your first language, but you don't need to keep copying things I've said, lol.

In fact, we all had the chat bug (chat-server-based lag) and a few people straight-up lost their connections standing in town.

Anyone who was there can confirm this, and it happens all the time with these events.


So you are now again down to soft ad hominem criticizing my language skills.

A few people losing connection to a server happens either if its a hot IP or not if you are standing in town. What adverse effects are you talking about then? This nothingburger?

Bold: How do you know? This was your first event. Caught in a lie it seems.

Quote (Mcbeefy @ Oct 29 2021 11:09pm)
This is such a false equivalency I think I lost the few IQ points you claimed I had left.


Except its not, but nice try. You also keep parroting my own words back to me. :) I see that you are getting frustrated, better go take a nap maybe?

This post was edited by netket on Oct 29 2021 03:12pm
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Oct 29 2021 03:23pm
Quote (netket @ Oct 29 2021 02:12pm)
Yes, I was talking about fg profits. You are making completely false assumptions still.

You are arguing in bad faith still and using argument ad nauseam which is a fallacy in itself.



So you are now again down to soft ad hominem criticizing my language skills.

A few people losing connection to a server happens either if its a hot IP or not if you are standing in town. What adverse effects are you talking about then? This nothingburger?

Bold: How do you know? This was your first event. Caught in a lie it seems.



Except its not. Just because you claim it is it doesnt make it true. You also keep parroting my own words back to me. :) I see that you are getting frustrated, better go take a nap maybe?


Look I get you're still trying to damage control your "business" to all hell now that XRP has damaged it, but I've said my piece.

If your response to all of my evidence-based arguments boils down to "Nu-uh!" then we're done here.

Also, you were the one trying to mock me by misusing and misinterpreting the things I've said, so I just thought I'd call you out for it ;)

I'll let the court of public opinion decide on whether or not you're "acting rationally" or being a manipulative trader here.

However, I must ask everyone one thing: What is the motive behind Netket's incessant and incendiary attacks against this host?

My conversation here started with a simple compliment after having a good DClone walk with the OP, and I was immediately attacked by this charlatan.

Why would he be so defensive over the price of Annis and the disruption of the DClone market, and why did he keep referring to DClone walks as a source of money, and profits when he only has 8,000fg?

It was fun to go back to my keyboard-warrior roots to call out some obvious BSing, but I've had my fill.

GL to you all, and I hope to see your competing code on github soon, Netket ;)


P.S. DClone walk events happened all the time on the original game and can be organized on websites other than jsp :)

This post was edited by Mcbeefy on Oct 29 2021 03:31pm
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Quote (Mcbeefy @ Oct 29 2021 11:23pm)
Look I get you're still trying to damage control your "business" to all hell now that XRP has damaged it, but I've said my piece.

If your response to my evidence-based arguments are simply "Nu-uh!" then we're done here.

Also, you were the one trying to mock me by misusing and misinterpreting the things I've said, so I just thought I'd call you out for it ;)

I'll let the court of public opinion decide on whether or not you're "acting rationally" or being a manipulative trader here.

However, I must ask everyone one thing: What is the motive behind Netket's incessant and incendiary attacks against this host?

My conversation here started with a simple complement after having a good DClone walk with the OP, and I was immediately attacked by this charlatan.

Why would he be so defensive over the price of Annis, and why did he keep referring to DClone walks as a source of money, and profits when they only have 8,000fg?

It was fun to go back to my keyboard-warrior roots to call out some obvious BSing, but I've had my fill.

GL to you all, and I hope to see your competing code on github soon, Netket ;)


1st line: Argumentum ad nauseam

2nd line: Evidence based argument? I dont understand what you are talking about. You provided zero evidence for any of your claims.

5th line: I stopped attacking the host a long time ago, I was just responding to you because you kept quoting me

6th line: And then you kept quoting me over 30 posts? What for? You couldve left at any point

7th line: I have 8k fg because I am gearing up my characters? You are reaching to ridiculous conclusions from "evidence" made up by you

9th: keep dreaming. I wont give you anything thats for sure :)
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