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Oh and just one final thing I remembered to completely destroy your braindead arguments:

You stated multiple times that he created a clearly SUPERIOR system for getting annies.

It is not superior. It is, however, more effective. Is it also more fair?

Lets see:

One person gets 100 annies, and 59 ppl get 1 anni each

vs.

5 ppl dont get an anni, 20 ppl get 1 anni, 20 ppl get 2 annies and 15 ppl get 3 annies (since most of the runs allow multiboxing to an extent)

Which one seems like the more fair distribution to you? Is it morally right to sacrifice fairness for more effectiveness? I think if you have 2 braincells you will know the answer

Maybe if you look like this you will still argue the opposite (I wouldnt be too surprised):




That was it from me for real now, that is enough time online wrestling with mongrels

This post was edited by netket on Oct 29 2021 12:36pm
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Hah, funny how I only skimmed like 10% of your posts and still nailed it on the head.

See my first bolded section? "made-up market", "exploiting a mechanic", "shouldve been changed". These are the telling signs that you are actually discontent with how things are going down in the current economy. This proves my point that indeed, you are bitter and want everyone who is making money to fail.

Red part? Completely made up stuff, you dont know anything about servers you are just channeling your bitterness into whatever made up reason you can.

Blue: "projecting" Who is projecting bro? How am I projecting insecurities? You think this is an automatic argument winner so you gonna just use "projection" any time you can? Projecting would be me saying something like "You guys are all just greedy and want money!!" I havent engaged in these kind of statements, I just explained my displeasure with one person monopolizing the market.

Yeah, my "cash cow" is getting milked by somebody else. But not only my cash cow, 300 other folks' cash cow as well who have been active and engaged in the community runs. And it will all go to one person, yes. And any sane and rational person (who is not coming from a place of bitterness like you) can see that this is not a good thing for the community.

Let me find another post



red: Yeah, its called low effort trolling. welcome to the internet

blue: Free gibs without any work am I right? Every bottom feeders dream. Enjoy it while it lasts buddy

green: Yeah they should, thats the fun part. And no its not "MAYBE", your chances of not killing a boss if you participate in 2 runs is less than 3%. You just have to do the work and engage with the community. Developers created the system like this, and its only you and a few others who apparently hate it because you want stuff handed to you on a silver platter. It's a completely achievable challenge and it feels very good to actually find the IP after searching for a good while and to get rewarded. You arguing against this fun mechanic is basically just proving my point about you being bitter about the state of things.

bold: What? Damage control? Business partners? What? Thats a lot of baseless assumptions you are making here that do not even make sense. If I had business partners I would already be working on the same system instead of arguing with a low iq subhuman (sorry but I just cant stop myself after reading a few lines from you. maybe I shouldnt have, just to preserve my own sanity). Are you perhaps PROJECTING your own bad intentions on me and thinking that I am also coming from a bad place? Seems like you are. Seems like you actually want to ruin the fun for everyone else because you are not having fun. And just because my tone is angry and disgruntled it doesnt automatically mean that I am coming from a place of bad intention even though you are also making this completely baseless assumption

Wow, I think that is enough. To be honest reading some of the shit you are writing feels like someone is hitting me over the head with something heavy.

Sorry, dear audience, but I am back to low effort trolling if he keeps quoting me. Believe that I "lost the argument" if you want to



While you're busy actually making assumptions about me, I'm just using the information you've given throughout this thread.

Quote (netket @ Oct 28 2021 06:10pm)
I came off as pissed off and disgruntled, because I was. Now that I see a way to actually sabotage this guy I am feeling content. Me being pissed off is coming from the place of feeling out of control of a shitty situation, but now I feel much more in control.

Thank you for your post though, really made me feel like I was being understood and that means a lot. Glad to see someone actually seeing through the superficial.

Just one thing. It wont negate the long term negatives, it will accelerate them. All it will achieve is make this guy profit less (actually his bosses, this guy's a nobody. someone smart wouldnt name himself xrp) , and give other whales a slice of the pie and drive the market to ruin quicker. I am doing this completely out of spite.


Yeah, you came of as a "1337 tr0ll" rather than someone having a nervous, petty breakdown here.

The entire DClone event was made to reduce the amount of duped SoJs in older patches of D2 (not a problem anymore), and the IP-based spawning idea from 2003 encourages the community to literally perform minor DDOS attacks on their servers.
Thinking that this was a dumb way to implement DClone in the remake is not an unpopular opinion to have, nor does it make me bitter.

Comparing this service to a hand-out despite costing 2 SoJs is disingenuous at best.

If "ruining the fun" refers to praising the improvement of a bad system that is the only source of a BIS charm in-game, then you've really lost the plot here.

By "ruining the fun" you must actually mean "ruining my profits."

Frankly, after seeing your responses, I doubt you have the knowledge and resources to set up a system like this despite your claims.
If you do, go for it! I'm rooting for you to make ALL DClone walks 100% safe and give XRP some real competition.
I'll be waiting :)

This post was edited by Mcbeefy on Oct 29 2021 12:57pm
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Oct 29 2021 12:47pm
Quote (netket @ Oct 29 2021 11:34am)
Oh and just one final thing I remembered to completely destroy your braindead arguments:

You stated multiple times that he created a clearly SUPERIOR system for getting annies.

It is not superior. It is, however, more effective. Is it also more fair?

Lets see:

One person gets 100 annies, and 59 ppl get 1 anni each

vs.

5 ppl dont get an anni, 20 ppl get 1 anni, 20 ppl get 2 annies and 15 ppl get 3 annies (since most of the runs allow multiboxing to an extent)

Which one seems like the more fair distribution to you? Is it morally right to sacrifice fairness for more effectiveness? I think if you have 2 braincells you will know the answer

Maybe if you look like this you will still argue the opposite (I wouldnt be too surprised):

https://i.imgur.com/olfhgsi.png


That was it from me for real now, that is enough time online wrestling with mongrels


It's a superior methodology for the customer. Full stop.

The customer doesn't need to worry about falling into that 5-10% that paid 2 SoJs for nothing.

I couldn't care less if it hurts you and your "community" of RMTers.
I doubt anyone but you and your fellow scumlords care, frankly.

This post was edited by Mcbeefy on Oct 29 2021 12:52pm
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It's a superior methodology for the customer. Full stop.

The customer doesn't need to worry about falling into that 5-10% that paid 2 SoJs for nothing.

I couldn't care less if it hurts you and your "community" of RMTers.
I doubt anyone but you and your fellow scumlords care, frankly.


Nah. This way kills the market and allows the person who is coordinating, and his friends, to exploit every1. If you think you are gaining off this thats a joke. There isa reason prices dropped so hard. They are selling hard rmt.
Overall profits would be higher, event if you miss a few percentile, if you dont' give the coordinators such a huge advantage.
You are rather naive.

This post was edited by Ryvulet on Oct 29 2021 01:08pm
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Quote (Ryvulet @ Oct 29 2021 12:07pm)
Nah. This way kills the market and allows the person who is coordinating, and his friends, to exploit every1. If you think you are gaining off this thats a joke. There isa reason prices dropped so hard. They are selling hard rmt.


Are you one of netket's fellow community members?

I have said countless times here that I don't care about Annis falling in price.
They're gonna drop either way thanks to the sheer amount of DClone walks happening daily, especially on weekends.

You guys are arguing in favor of personal profits, while I, like many people here, just wanted to experience killing a DClone and getting my own Anni without staring at TCPView for 3 hours.

We are not the same.
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Quote (Mcbeefy @ 29 Oct 2021 15:11)
Are you one of netket's fellow community members?

I have said countless times here that I don't care about Annis falling in price.
They're gonna drop either way thanks to the sheer amount of DClone walks happening daily, especially on weekends.

You guys are arguing in favor of personal profits, while I, like many people here, just wanted to experience killing a DClone and getting my own Anni without staring at TCPView for 3 hours.

We are not the same.


soundsl ike you are naive and lazy
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Quote (Ryvulet @ Oct 29 2021 12:13pm)
soundsl ike you are naive and lazy


Staring at TCPView while thinking about that 5-10% fail rate sure makes a person active and industrious, you're right! /s

Did netket get off his smurf account and get on his main to continue the damage control here?

You guy(s) are too funny!

This post was edited by Mcbeefy on Oct 29 2021 01:20pm
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Quote (Mcbeefy @ Oct 29 2021 09:11pm)
Are you one of netket's fellow community members?

I have said countless times here that I don't care about Annis falling in price.
They're gonna drop either way thanks to the sheer amount of DClone walks happening daily, especially on weekends.

You guys are arguing in favor of personal profits, while I, like many people here, just wanted to experience killing a DClone and getting my own Anni without staring at TCPView for 3 hours.

We are not the same.


So, since I got a little suspension for flaming (jsp is for snowflakes I am aware), I am going to adapt your style and just be pretentious and annoying in my arguments. :)


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You are arguing in favor of a person who is clearly breaking ToS. This is clearly unacceptable, and you are speaking from a place of desperation for personal gain.

The developers have created the game in a certain way and that is the only way it is meant to be played. If you do not like how things are in this game, you are free to go and find another that suits your needs more, no need to support cheaters and abusers.

This post was edited by netket on Oct 29 2021 01:41pm
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So, since I got a little suspension for flaming (jsp is for snowflakes I am aware), I am going to adapt your style and just be pretentious and annoying in my arguments. :)


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Cheating: Create, use, offer, promote, advertise, make available and/or distribute the following or assist therein:
cheats; i.e. methods not expressly authorized by Blizzard (whether accomplished using hardware, software, a combination thereof, or otherwise), influencing and/or facilitating gameplay, including exploits of any in-game bugs, and thereby granting you and/or any other user an advantage over other players not using such methods;
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You are arguing in favor of a person who is clearly breaking ToS. This is clearly unacceptable, and you are speaking from a place of desperation for personal gain.

The developers have created the game in a certain way and that is the only way it is meant to be played. If you do not like how things are in this game, you are free to go and find another that suits your needs more, no need to support cheaters and abusers.


That argument can be used against the entire DClone hosting community that you so love.

The coordinated DDOSing of a Server by constant disconnects and reconnects and checking the lobby IP with third-party software in order to exploit this game mechanic could be argued to be against Blizzard TOS.

Nice try, but you played yourself.
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That argument can be used against the entire DClone hosting community that you so love.

The coordinated DDOSing of a Server by constant disconnects and reconnects and checking the lobby IP with third-party software in order to exploit this game mechanic could be argued to be against Blizzard TOS.

Nice try, but you played yourself.


Incorrect, nobody is using third party tools or methods to modify the game's behaviour in any way. Please read the ToS carefully so you will have a better understanding of what you are talking about.

Your stance is clearly undefendable, why dont you just take the L and move along?
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