Quote (Jonathon @ Jul 9 2010 08:53pm)

How do we put the people we want in power when the people over there hold elections for their leaders now. How does that fucking make one iota of sense? Are you trying to say we rig the elections, hell no that is asinine. The people were stuck in a cocoon where there wasn't an escape from the dictatorship. Even if it takes 20 years to help build the country you cannot deny that it was a good thing to do. Would you willingly let people stay in a state of oppression, thats fucking immoral of you if you want to talk about morals. Additionally we are not forcing our entire way of thinking onto them, however I must admit there is a western hedge, but that way of thinking has spread throughout the world slowly throughout the years to where it is no longer a truly "western" hedge. Funny how you are turning to trying to insult me on fictitious things of "whacking it to palin." Usually this kind of rage comes from a sign of distress, probably because you are losing this here.


Name one good thing we have done?

99% of people will say if not more that freeing someone from being oppressed is a good thing. Setting up schools is a good thing, helping the cities get running water and electricity where previously is a good thing. Distributing the wealth more among the people rather than having Sadaam hording it all and keeping his people in poverty is a good thing. Must I continue?

How about just leave this section and never return. We don't like people who hate America here.

Quote (Jonathon @ Jul 10 2010 05:01am)

Ya we probably don't have over a million active though, last I heard. I could be mistaken though.

Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Jul 10 2010 01:04am)

The only person who hates America is the person to blinded by its injustice to do anything to save it. You are a fool and once again if you can swallow the shit your selling without wanting to gag then you deserve a fucking medal for denile champions of the world. Evil dictators thrown out by countless bombs that have ravaged the country theres hardly a country left yet you say we have done good things.... we helped the oppressed get free from a system that for the most part worked for them, hell but if throwing a couple douches out meant we had to destroy the homes of half the people living there and kill vast numbers of the population i suppose it's alright as long as they become a democratic nation once were done butt fucking them to normal. I really do love how whenever someone sees them selfs lacking in an argument they revert to personal attacks along with trying to take credibility you can not win an argument you know nothing about. You have been blinded by your pride sir and until you chose to open your eyes there isn't a single shred of hope for you.

Btw there was a riot and an assassination during the first democratic election because the people felt it was rigged by us lol. Oh yeah what was that Al Gore / Bush election that was a good one lol, having more votes and even winning by electoral votes 4 times doesn't mean on the 5th one good old jeb can't switch some numbers up eh. But fuck what do i know the governments always told us the truth and never done anything that would hurt others right fuck i mean why would they start now it's not like a lot of Vietnam vets are traumatized from being given massive doses of lsd before battle lol.


I just find it hilarious that you actually believe it's not possible to fix a election in a third world country when it was done here in America lol. Grow up and stop pretending to be an expert on a subject that you clearly get all your information from fox news on.

Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Jul 9 2010 11:04pm)

The only person who hates America is the person to blinded by its injustice to do anything to save it. You are a fool and once again if you can swallow the shit your selling without wanting to gag then you deserve a fucking medal for denile champions of the world. Evil dictators thrown out by countless bombs that have ravaged the country theres hardly a country left yet you say we have done good things.... we helped the oppressed get free from a system that for the most part worked for them, hell but if throwing a couple douches out meant we had to destroy the homes of half the people living there and kill vast numbers of the population i suppose it's alright as long as they become a democratic nation once were done butt fucking them to normal. I really do love how whenever someone sees them selfs lacking in an argument they revert to personal attacks along with trying to take credibility you can not win an argument you know nothing about. You have been blinded by your pride sir and until you chose to open your eyes there isn't a single shred of hope for you.

Btw there was a riot and an assassination during the first democratic election because the people felt it was rigged by us lol. Oh yeah what was that Al Gore / Bush election that was a good one lol, having more votes and even winning by electoral votes 4 times doesn't mean on the 5th one good old jeb can't switch some numbers up eh. But fuck what do i know the governments always told us the truth and never done anything that would hurt others right fuck i mean why would they start now it's not like a lot of Vietnam vets are traumatized from being given massive doses of lsd before battle lol.


I just find it hilarious that you actually believe it's not possible to fix a election in a third world country when it was done here in America lol. Grow up and stop pretending to be an expert on a subject that you clearly get all your information from fox news on.

Quote (spfraiders1 @ Jul 9 2010 09:07pm)

Quick question. You have yet to cite a single fact you've been dropping all over this thread with hypotheticals, correct? Why do you attempt to discredit his posts because he hasn't posted exact quantitative data and documentaries cited in MLA format? Don't contradict yourself, you've been doing it this whole thread.

Quote (Jonathon @ Jul 9 2010 09:10pm)

I never said it was impossible. But if you look the last leader they elected we don't really like, why would we want someone elected we didn't like. Get your facts straight about this you dumbass. So if a system works, that means we should let them stay in that system?

A dog gets beaten every morning, but we make sure we feed him and water him and house him. That works for the dog in terms of survival, but is that a good thing? No. Just because something works doesn't mean it is inherently a good thing.

I don't even watch fox news sorry to burst your bubble. Clearly you are still mad based on people you know. You think those few people you know is enough to solidify your arguments yet you don't even offer your statistics, ouren already posted up the numbers to show that your theory of catastrophic more deaths of civilians than insurgents happens got busted. You got nothing riding here for you than a few lousy non solidified arguments and your determination not to know when you are beaten.


e. Also learn to type faster this 20 minutes for a response is boring.

Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Jul 9 2010 11:13pm)

Once again please continue to team up another point for me . He started with bashing me about not using facts first yet has not used a single legitimate one himself.

YEAH i found another lil sheeeepy join your butt buddies and let the flaming begin, I'm such an ignorant anti American who for some reason is the only one who seems to be actually concerned about America making it through another 50-100 yrs. I guess everyone else is fine with starting wars over natural resources. Eventually we won't get so lucky and we might actually have to deal with a real country and without a doubt America will be painted as one of the most evil and powerful nations in existence unless we do something to prove were not just a bunch of money grubbing whores killing and sacrificing innocent lives for a big fat check.

Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Jul 9 2010 11:14pm)

your wrong, your dumb, I've got shit to do. I'll come back and actually read this latter I'm tired of hearing your horribly inaccurate arguments and personal attacks. Have a nice night, btw i pmd deezy saying i got kicked out of the guild for disagreeing on the military and w/e and that i didn't want back in . So I'm gone for good have a great night everyone, try not to hurt your heads by thinking about something thats not on fox news.

Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Jul 10 2010 01:13am)

Once again please continue to team up another point for me . He started with bashing me about not using facts first yet has not used a single legitimate one himself.

YEAH i found another lil sheeeepy join your butt buddies and let the flaming begin, I'm such an ignorant anti American who for some reason is the only one who seems to be actually concerned about America making it through another 50-100 yrs. I guess everyone else is fine with starting wars over natural resources. Eventually we won't get so lucky and we might actually have to deal with a real country and without a doubt America will be painted as one of the most evil and powerful nations in existence unless we do something to prove were not just a bunch of money grubbing whores killing and sacrificing innocent lives for a big fat check.

Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Jul 9 2010 11:49pm)

Kick me out already or I'm just going to leave, for some reason i thought somehow at least a few people on this site would be above believing in what they are told from birth to believe. I haven't had the bad fortune of meeting a few bad apples I've met hundreds of Military men so here we go.

1 kid from my high school who thought he was a gangster joined the military so he could shoot minorities and be called a hero for it .

2. A guy i was friends with in high-school joined the military and by the end of boot camp had become a completely different person, instead of being the nice timid guy he was he turned into a womanizer douche bag whos only goal seemed to be making everyone around feel as shitty as he must inside.

3. An acquaintance from high-school joined the military he got stationed at fort lewis which is pretty close to my town, i would c him in town every once in awhile when i worked at jack in the box. He would come through the drive threw late at night with usually 2 or sometimes 1 nearly passed out very under aged girls in the back seat with him and at least 2 other doucher looking guys on the way back to camp for a lil gang bang action.

4. One of my brothers best friends joined came back a compulsive liar and a complete piece of shit that was a hard one.

5. A recruiter came to my high-school when i was a junior he asked me if i planned on enlisting and i told him i didn't believe in fighting for a unjust cause. It was really nice seeing a 30+ year old man trying to start a fight with a 16 yr old kid for not believing the exact same thing he believes.

Not to mention the number of rape accusations that have come along with nearly every base I've heard off, not even to long ago there really was two girls found raped and murdered on a military base in my area and not even a single finger was listed for investigation lol.

OH yeah and I'm in Washington state one of the least violent states in America. I found it unimaginable that you people can sit here and point your finger at me as if i'm the bad person for speaking out against the outrageous things that go on behind our backs on American soil and the even more horrid shit that goes on overseas.

Please continue flaming, I've met way to many military personal in my life and i really do hope i can avoid the rest of them for as long as humanly possible.

If my homeland is ever in real trouble i would answer the call and fight proudly, I WILL NOT however support the people who send foolish and uneducated men and woman out to defile the once good name of this American Nation. All of you sheep out there take a fucking look do you really think American soldiers traveling the world and acting as they do will win us any popularity awards? The military has become a disgrace and the men and woman who serve bravely have been brain washed into being no better then the cowards who run the whole show.


Try actually thinking about what I'm saying before you just blindly start flaming me again because i don't agree with what you've been force fed your whole life.