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Quote (LoadstoneKnight @ Jul 10 2010 12:31am)
Holy shit, I just read this whole thread and felt my blood pressure rising each time he made an assertion. But as a 15-minute rebuttal on a few of the points he tried to make:
So you knew 10 military personnel who happened to love raping girls:
1. Why didn't you, I dunno, tell the authorities if you KNEW who was guilty? Sounds made up.
2. I'm not normally one to stereotype, but there is some truth to be had in a lot of stereotypes. Given your physical appearance, I'd guess you're not exactly in the rule-following, well-educated crowd, are you? You mentioned your friend, someone you knew, and your brother's friend. These people were probably also in that drug-riddled, "break-the-rules-because-it's-cool" crowd if they were your friends? Basically, these were people that were statistically more likely to break the law anyway? Skewed sample by any argument.
Killing "500 civilians to kill 1 towel-head":
1. Honestly? Can't even take you seriously with this one, but I'll humor you.
2. There's no chance in hell anybody growing up in the USA would follow an order like that. One of the nice things about this country is we value human life. Even, you know, wasted ones like yours.
3. I'm personally working on the development some of the equipment that the military will be using. If there's ANY chance of unnecessary inaccuracy, or otherwise lack of control over how the weapon works, it isn't released. I know, because it's a pain in the ass to me and my co-workers but the military WON'T BUDGE on that point.
4. Statistics were posted. In any argument, if you're the one making the assertion, the burden of proof is on you. But you don't, nor do you even acknowledge the information that WAS posted.
You say the US wasted so much money on this war:
1. You complain about how Bush got elected. I'm going to go ahead and assume you're a Democrat? What about the Obama programs? What tangible rewards have we had from that money? Other than the fact that he single-handedly caused more US debt than any other president?
2. The war is freeing a people from oppression and giving them the chance to live life with some basic amenities. You call it worthless, I'd like to see you go a month without electricity or running water. You're welcome to go try it out and let us know how it went. Then you can decide whether to accept the improvements or if it's really not that big of a deal.
So please, even if you won't acknowledge that your opinions are naive and invalid, at least bear in mind that you live in a country that tolerates such stupidity. You have that freedom because of these men and women in uniform, and your utter ingratitude is so selfish and wrong that it irks me you're still allowed to be called an American. But that's your right, protected by those you are so quick to condemn. I honestly hope you one day gain an appreciation for someone other than yourself.
You've yet to address this I see.
I know you've never actually partaken in any form of intelligent debate, but here are a few tips:
1. Don't make up theories that you can't back up, especially if there's information directly disproving it.
2. When you ignore the opposition because you can't think of anything to say, that isn't you "winning". Truth be told, there's very seldom an actual "winner" in debates, since two parties who believe strongly enough in any particular cause to spend their time defending it are likely to be too close-minded to consider changing their point-of-view anyway. Most debates don't have a "right" or "wrong" answer, such as this one. But I strongly believe that those who are willing to give their lives to protect any wasteful little thing we do with our freedoms deserve the utmost respect. They don't CHOOSE the war they fight in. If the war is really such a bad thing, it's OUR fault for electing a government that would partake in such a war. Don't you dare blame or condemn men and women braver than you or I could ever hope to be for that.
3. When your arguments resort to personal attacks, you know you've lost. This isn't 2nd grade, stop acting like it.
4. Saying you "slammed" us doesn't mean you "won" (see point #2). It means you can't think of a comeback. You're not the first person to use that when you're too pussy to admit defeat, and you won't be the last. I'll make fun of anyone who does, ask BlueSkyz what I said when he used to pull that shit.
And just so everyone can get a good laugh like I did, here's the PM he sent me:
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Jul 10 2010 08:02am)
Are you like actually fucking retarded? I really don't want to pick on a retarded kid but i feel like I'm going to have to for just a moment.
First off i only said that one of the people i knew may have been involved in sexual activities with minors, yes calling the authorities always works I'll play this out for you real quick.
Hello police how can we help you?
OH man i just saw a couple of army guys heading back to their base with some very underage and liquored up looking girls in the vehicle.
Sir is this a joke?
What the fuck are you serious, those girls are about to get raped..... fucking do something.
Yes unfortunately sir without any real proof or evidence of these actions taking place we can't really act upon them.
So i need to get a picture of these girls being raped and then you could prosecute?
uhhhh maybe all depends they might just get shipped off to the middle east...... * click *
Everything you have said about my statements has been completely false lol, I've cleared up some of it since other idiots of your caliber some how have managed to misinterpret simple fucking examples. Good luck to you on you're head injury or w/e mental defect you may have been born with. I pray for your well being and hope that one day you actually learn how to read instead of just making wild insinuations about your superiors.
Until further notice I'm done slamming you bitches, good night and fuck your self for being such a worthless twat 
1. When you call the police with suspicions of rape or kidnapping, they're bound by law to investigate. You don't NEED evidence to call it in.
2. Military personnel in legal proceedings aren't "shipped off to the middle east". Come on now, use a little common sense.
3. The police aren't the only form of authorities. Hence why I said "call the authorities", not "call the cops".
These little inadequate comebacks followed by personal attacks are basically what make your argument so flimsy. Please, get accepted to college and take a few basic logic courses, then come back and we'll try this again.