Ok so that would mean 1 person on the other team at the lifts with the exception of 2 at one. You can use the lift in the middle while they camp the lifts. You can take the far side ramp up to their side. You can have some teammates rush with you. It's not too hard. There are ways.

you're trying to explain this like it's some crazy fool-proof setup-breaker when it's really the complete opposite. in red 2 shot gun spawns, by doing that just one guy on red 3 can camp both the purple and red lift simultaneously, how fucking op the shotgun is plays off that as well. gold lift is super campable, you dont even need a shotgun/sword to camp it. even if the other team does happen to grab sword, the sword guy can't go up purple/red lift since shotgun beats sword because it is so easy to get bulltrues with the shotgun in this game. if sword went up gold lift even if he did get the kill anybody else on yellow 3 would be able to pop 2 or 3 nades inside gold lift and easily kill everybody inside it.

no point in arguing that sword base is a balanced map.

This post was edited by xx0ur3n on Oct 2 2010 04:06pm

the worst map is the acension carry over.

or the one with the huge rocks you can climb

I never said it was balanced. I said it's not a bad map. Maybe you're just bad?

you're argument is you can easily break the setup using lifts. after i just completely destroyed your point, you come back with the typical "ubad?".

lol.

I never said use only the lifts. You can use the ramp up to them. But in all perspectives, only a nublet runs to the other team. Why not make them come to your team? You can make an easy setup around Blue spawn.

lolwat.

in you're post you stated that you can use purple lift or whatever, in which i said no, shotgun breaks all the lifts on red side. the ramps suck, shotgun can kill red ramp, or even if you didnt have shotgun, you can still drop down behind the people on red 2 and flank them easily. also on yellow 3 ramp theres the glass over it which gives you an absolutely huge advantage to anybody pushing up yellow.

if you dont have the lead and dont have top mid control, you have to push since the other team wont. basically on sword base if you play things right and win the opening battle and get top control, you can take the game from there.

lots of contradicting points in your posts, it's a good map but you agree it's not balanced? first you point out that lifts are okay, but after i point out that all the lifts are danger zones you say not to use the lifts but use ramps instead?

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I never said it was balanced and I never said it wasn't. You're just making shit up to argue about. There are plenty of strats you can use. If they're camping, why not use OP nades? The launcher is perfect for that if you can live to get it.
I never said don't use the lifts. I clearly said you don't have to only use the lifts. I'm done arguing with your uneducated ass. You can't read/interpret shit.

E: Quote me where I said any of the things you're saying I said.

This post was edited by Aven on Oct 2 2010 05:35pm

I like Cage now that I changed from Bumper Jumper to Recon.

Once I became more familiar with it, I didn't dislike it as much.
I don't like playing it but I don't quit out when I have to.