has one of the hardest bosses i have ever fought, the last elite mark. forgot name. but i took me like 2-3 days ( about 4-6 hours to beat) thats with all chars license grids full, and with a zodiac spear on vaan. i took a long time cause you have to run like 3 sceens away to save ( very hard to kill in 1 try, ng i might try it.) if you run a lil ways into the tunnel with out leaving area he can regain FULL heath within seconds.

edit: after all quests and bosses done i had 156 hours on ff12

by far the longest console game to beat 100% i have ever played.

This post was edited by huGe-UNIT on Jun 9 2007 05:11am

if you did this game in 156 hours you're pretty good. I'm at 171 hours right now, 2nd time around and I'm just starting Ridorana and The Pharos. But I have almost every ultimate weapon now and just the 2 game story espers to find. Rare game and hunt trophies in the Pharos and Ridorana. THen Hell Wrym, and Yiazmat. Still need staff of magi from Luxolid in the Pharos.
Masamune and yagyu darkblade versus yiazmat would have been easier. Thats what I have in my inventory right now. I might spend time to get a 2nd Yagyu, not sure yet.
And there is a way to bring down Yiazmat the cheap way. I dont' know never tried it. Use reflect and dark. Get mirror mails for your party and cast darkga. only problem get yiazmat near the steps and then hide behind the wall. then cast dispel when you see Yiazmat redies regen. go to the steps and cast dispel and run back behind the wall. he must cast all his buff again until he recasts regen.......
I tried this method to see if it does work, to my amazment you can cast thru a wall. I guess only with reflect. But I went off to kill him the proper way cause with Yagyu and genji gloves, masamune its much faster.
My first time I played this game I had 316 hours. Everything done, every weapon/armour/sheild/accessories.
Edit: I can't wait to finish this game, and this time having it saved for real without my gf earasing it by accident. Then I can try the NLB and the 122333 challenge. I'm just learning on how the knot of rust and dark matter works.

This post was edited by PorthiosKanan on Jun 9 2007 05:53pm

If anyone wanted to know about Lamont.........euh I mean Larsa here's a scene of him. At the 2:10 minute of the video. In Bhujerba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw3mu9ENaF8

Didnt like 12 that much :S

Everyone to their opinion. I didn't like 7, hence I only played it 15 minutes and got bored. Hoped on 8 and loved it. Then Hoped on 12 and this is my 2nd time around. I prefer 12 then 8 now, maybe because its my 2nd time on the game.
Anyways I just saw Trailer 13 in HD. Man I can't wait to get this game. I put the link in my sig.
I'm considering going back and buying the FFX. I'm not sure yet. Although I might actually get the urge to really try out and play all of FF7.
I have no idea what FFX-2 is. Somewhat an idea on FFX. And I'll never play FFXI. The idea of paying to play is not my idea of having fun playing a game. I mean you pay for the game, then you must pay to actually play it. wtf is up with that?
Anyways, love 12 and I can see why some might not like it as much. No love story, but thats fine I dont care for love story. I rather like this 12 on the politics instead of seeing Ashe and Basch love each other or Fran and Balthier see them smooching or whatever. If I give this game couples here's what I'd see. Balthier - Fran // Basch - Ashe // Penelo - Lamont (euh ya right Larsa). Vaan too busy with his sky pirate ship. Anyways Penelo and Vaan are sorta bro and sis, even though he is adopted by Penelo's parents ( I think it said he lived with penelo when he was orphaned, or they both lived together I suppose supervised by Migelo) Not really sure though but whatever.

If you like 12 so much you probably would enjoy 11. 11s gameplay is a lot like 12s with some Diablo tactics thrown in. Power-leveling etc. It's very hard to compete in the game solo which is what I really didn't like about it. Paying for it is also bullshit but I saw past that for a while.

hahaha...well vaans brother is even worse then him.

This is the reason I didn't get 11. the idea of buying the game is okay with me but then paying to play it......wtf is that for. I mean if I pay for this game I damn well better be able to play it. So I highly doubt I'll buy 11 for that reason.
And from my last statement on the idea of love going around in 12. Here's something I didn't catch my first time playing it. Does Al-Cid putting moves on Ashe? He does seem to flirt with her both times they meet, in Bur Omisace and Balfonheim after the Pharos. I just notice that cause I just passed Pharos. It is fun the 2nd time around because you can pick who you want to play with better this time. I had bascially Fran run the show from Pharos 1st ascent up to Judge Gabranth. She solo'd the Pharos, Vaan spawned when she got disabled by damn Bune's or Reapers.
Basch took on Gabranth, thought it be appropriate for him to beat him out........and Balthier solo versus Dr Cid. and Famfrit. I have this strange idea there's more to Balthier and Cid. Almost a father son relationship. Oh and everything was solo. Even Reddas didn't show himself. I killed him right away when he joined as a guest. Yup be the guest and enjoy the rid. He didn't gain 1 exp point. Oh and prior same went for Larsa. didn't do anything in the Lhusu mines. be the real guest and stay in reserve as KO. Leave my exp alone. Fran in the Pharos solo went from level 82 to 94. Exp is wild when you solo it.

vouche on that, thats 1 of the reasons o wont play wow. and its super boring imo.

Well im guna get as far as possible on FF12 this weekend as ive only just got past giza plains when u get the energy form the stones ^^ lol