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Jul 27 2010 03:05am
Quote (Lublar @ Jul 26 2010 09:47pm)
Of course I was serious...  If he's looking to buy a FF for the PC, 8 is the best option(unless he's looking for an MMO).

In terms of storyline, character development, and story pacing/progression, 8 outclasses 7 in every way by a wide margin.  Also, it's more challenging, the materia system is one of the easiest systems in any FF game.


Materia was the most versital systems. Also if 8 was the best storyline/character development why did they choose to make advent children over a FF8 spin-off. As far as difficulty goes 12 was the hardest even at maximum level there are bosses that can one shot you if your reverse spells fall off. Sick of people evaluating their fandom and not the games.
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Jul 27 2010 12:20pm
^ If you were sick of evaluating fandom and not the games, then you'd know that popularity doesn't always mean the best quality. You basically answered your own question there. FF7 is definitely the most popular, I'm not going to deny that, because it's true. It was extremely hyped because up to that point there had never been a 3d experience like that. It pushed the edge of graphics early in the PS life, and it was also a lot of people's first FF, or first real RPG experience. Hell, it was my first real RPG experience as well, and I like the game, it's extremely easy to pick up and play. But, I don't think that makes it the best. The materia system was horribly unbalanced. It basically shattered the idea of anyone having a role, since everyone could(and most likely did) all the same attacks. This made the game really simple, not to mention all the ways you could manipulate the materia system(and the cheap summons), to make it where you can never die. If you lost any boss battle in FF7 you honestly deserve to be laughed at. Things like final attack, phoenix, knights of the round, etc.. all made the game really easy. And, there were a ton of materia tricks that were easy to figure out, like just giving your characters a bunch of counter attack materia.

Also, I never claimed 8 was the hardest, I was only comparing 7 and 8 since those are the only legit options if he's looking to buy for PC.

Don't get me wrong, the game is fun and I'm sure the OP would enjoy it, but in terms of quality and difficulty 8 is a step up. I stand by everything I've said.
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Jul 27 2010 05:07pm
I don't really care how short or long the game is. Its been years and years since i played and i am thinking about playing again
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Jul 27 2010 06:38pm
Quote (Lublar @ Jul 27 2010 01:20pm)
^ If you were sick of evaluating fandom and not the games, then you'd know that popularity doesn't always mean the best quality.  You basically answered your own question there.  FF7 is definitely the most popular, I'm not going to deny that, because it's true.  It was extremely hyped because up to that point there had never been a 3d experience like that.  It pushed the edge of graphics early in the PS life, and it was also a lot of people's first FF, or first real RPG experience.  Hell, it was my first real RPG experience as well, and I like the game, it's extremely easy to pick up and play.  But, I don't think that makes it the best.  The materia system was horribly unbalanced.  It basically shattered the idea of anyone having a role, since everyone could(and most likely did) all the same attacks.  This made the game really simple, not to mention all the ways you could manipulate the materia system(and the cheap summons), to make it where you can never die.  If you lost any boss battle in FF7 you honestly deserve to be laughed at.  Things like final attack, phoenix, knights of the round, etc.. all made the game really easy.  And, there were a ton of materia tricks that were easy to figure out, like just giving your characters a bunch of counter attack materia.

Also, I never claimed 8 was the hardest, I was only comparing 7 and 8 since those are the only legit options if he's looking to buy for PC.

Don't get me wrong, the game is fun and I'm sure the OP would enjoy it, but in terms of quality and difficulty 8 is a step up.  I stand by everything I've said.


If you re-read you would realize I am sick of other people evaluating their fandom not myself and I did not ask a single question. As stands 8 was a joke as far as the combat system (Really draw magic that has a finite amount of uses... talk about idiotic there was no growth in the combat system for 8 it was all there at the beginning) and extremely shallow characters that could be read as plain as a billboard. The depth of the characters in 7 was intriguing and new for the time and square has repeatedly try to use the game character concepts in multiple ways of their later series installments. As far as popularity I do agree it does not mean quality by any stretch of the imagination that's why as far as story goes 8 was a deeper story but lacked the appropriate character development to keep it interesting.

If you want to know what I think what final fantasy is best in each area here it is.

Best Story - FF10 - Was new in-depth and evolved quickly.
Best Limit system - Toss up between 9 and 10 - 9 offered very strong abilities that really turned the tide and 10s Limits where undoubtedly the best looking and most creative.
Best Magic System - FF7 - Simplistic but inspired creativity and yes with all systems that involve choice has loop holes or over powered options.
Best Combat System - FF12 - Unique in its concept and gave the ability to really control what your characters did without even having to tell them what to do every 5 seconds.
Best Summoning System - FF13 - Overall 13 Sucked outside of the new summoning system that allowed great 2 stage interaction but overall summons lacked power.
Best Main Character - Auron from FF10 He was a mystery the whole game until the end and wow what a turn around to find you have had a Dead guy in your party the whole time.
Best Bad Guy - Seifer from 8 his character seemed shallow but turned out to be rather deep even though it takes over 30 hours of game play to figure that out. Also nothing like friends turning on each other to incite plot development.

If you are still reading you can say I am not a fan of any specific Final Fantasy I just play them all and recognize their redeeming qualities. 8 was decent but really lacked progression the story stayed stagnant for 4-6 hours at a time and the combat system never evolved it was draw then equip the magic and wait till you can draw a better spell. Oh and god why... why... why did they even put the card battle system in the game trying to remember over 20 rules for a single game of tic tac toe with numbers is not what I call fun.

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Jul 27 2010 07:29pm
Not going to reply to everything, because it's just going to turn into a loop of opinions.

Quote (mercenary9909 @ Jul 27 2010 06:38pm)
If you re-read you would realize I am sick of other people evaluating their fandom not myself and I did not ask a single question.


Quote (mercenary9909 @ Jul 27 2010 03:05am)
Also if 8 was the best storyline/character development why did they choose to make advent children over a FF8 spin-off.


Just because you didn't put a question mark at the end doesn't mean it's not a question. I answered your question, sales and popularity are the highest for FF7 in the series. They were trying to make money, FF7 was the obvious choice. And saying that others only evaluate their fandom(and not yourself LOL), is a useless statement. At one time FF7 might have been my favorite, but things have changed and after years of reevaluating the games, FFT is my favorite easily. And I completely disagree about the character development. Squall is arguably the most dynamic character in FF. He was so different by the end of the game, he was transformed. Yes, the Junction system has problems(and can be tedious), but you can find something to dislike about any FF system. That being said, I'd take the junction system over the materia system any day. One last thing, most people love the card game in FF8 as their favorite mini game.

Everything else I've already said, and there is no point in reiterating.

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Jul 27 2010 07:55pm
Quote (Lublar @ Jul 27 2010 08:29pm)


Squall is arguably the most dynamic character in FF.  He was so different by the end of the game, he was transformed.



That is true for every FF Main character since 7 they are all different by the end of the game. As for the comment on him being dynamic I do not see how he was emo in the beginning to confident leader in the end. That kind of development is over played since the 50s in novels and plays. I do not see anything deep or unique about his character.
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Jul 28 2010 09:04am
3,4,5,7,8,9 is very much available on a Computer, i've played them all on my pc tons of times

OnT: best ff game "only story based"=FF9 followed by FF5 and FF7

But i whant you all to know that FF5,9 and 7 are all insanly awesome

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Jul 28 2010 11:40am
All FFs are awesome.

Personally, FF6 is the best of the series, followed by 7-8-9-10 (In no particular order, because they are all incredible).

On another hand, people who think and keep arguing the fact that FF7 is the best one either never played any other or is just a stupid fanboy jumping on the bandwagon.
It IS good, but not enough to be called the best of the series.
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Jul 28 2010 09:55pm
Jeez, I can only barely stand the graphics of FF7 because the story is great. I mean really I should screen shot ff7 with one of the later ones, and it would be insta-own. The first time I played FF7 I thought I bought a knock off that wasn't a real Final Fantasy, as I had played some of the later ones (like 10 and 11) which have very much more realism, while FF7 is extremely blocky, and most things just didn't look right. The sound in FF7 was okay, but sometimes repetitive, and there were no voices (which kinda sucked). The things FF7 had going for it was the gameplay and story line, which were fantastic. The Topic maker needs to specify what he wants in the game before asking which is the best.
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Jul 29 2010 02:29am
i really enjoyed the story to 10 and actually got involved in it i thought it was a great one. And 10 has hands down the best cutscene in the first blitzball match at the very beginning. Also the riding the rope into the fight off the airship was tight great game! i might play it again
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