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Nov 17 2016 01:21am
Hello guys, I am using HSTracker, a deck tracking app I downloaded from HockeyApp

The configuration of the deck tracker is set up in such a way that it shows cards that I have drawn, but not cards that I could draw

Is there some sort of further configuration I need to do to change this? I don't see it as an option in the app to change any of the settings

Perhaps I need to just download a different deck tracker

I will say that having this deck tracker has helped me a lot in remembering what my outs are, I play Malygos Rogue and Druid a lot and sometimes forget what I still have left and how much damage I could potentially do
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Nov 17 2016 03:04am
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Nov 17 2016 03:15am
I still don't use a deck tracker, feels iffy...

I realize Blizzard's unofficial stance on it, but their official stance hasn't changed... which is troubling.

This post was edited by Canadian_Man on Nov 17 2016 03:15am
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Nov 17 2016 03:28am
Quote (Canadian_Man @ Nov 17 2016 04:15am)
I still don't use a deck tracker, feels iffy...

I realize Blizzard's unofficial stance on it, but their official stance hasn't changed... which is troubling.


What? What's their official stance?

As far as i know their official stance is "if you can do the same thing with a pen and paper, it's fine"
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Nov 17 2016 07:25am
Quote (Canadian_Man @ Nov 17 2016 05:15am)
I still don't use a deck tracker, feels iffy...

I realize Blizzard's unofficial stance on it, but their official stance hasn't changed... which is troubling.


I tried the one buddy up there linked a few weeks ago, it was neat, but not really necessary, plus it made it so I couldn't minimize HS sometimes
so i removed it
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Nov 17 2016 03:00pm
Quote (DrLatBC @ Nov 17 2016 02:28am)
What? What's their official stance?

As far as i know their official stance is "if you can do the same thing with a pen and paper, it's fine"



That's their unofficial stance.

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Nov 17 2016 09:23pm
Quote (Canadian_Man @ Nov 17 2016 04:00pm)
That's their unofficial stance.


....... So what is their official stance?

Because literally hundreds of streamers use deck trackers on stream.

/e PS Ben brode (the lead designer of hs if anyone didn't know) said it's fine.

So... It's fine.

This post was edited by DrLatBC on Nov 17 2016 09:25pm
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Nov 17 2016 10:01pm
Quote (DrLatBC @ Nov 17 2016 10:23pm)
....... So what is their official stance?

Because literally hundreds of streamers use deck trackers on stream.

/e PS Ben brode (the lead designer of hs if anyone didn't know) said it's fine.

So... It's fine.



yea its fine, anything that doesn't allow an unfair competitive advantage
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Quote (NoMNoK @ Nov 17 2016 11:01pm)
yea its fine, anything that doesn't allow an unfair competitive advantage


Yeh some people are just paranoid about nonsense lel.
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Nov 17 2016 11:56pm
Quote (DrLatBC @ Nov 17 2016 08:23pm)
....... So what is their official stance?

Because literally hundreds of streamers use deck trackers on stream.

/e PS Ben brode (the lead designer of hs if anyone didn't know) said it's fine.

So... It's fine.


It's probably fine. That's their unofficial stance. I'm not sure you are understanding this.

Their terms of service still strictly prohibits the use of any third party applications that read data in a game, or interact with the game. Deck trackers do violate official, legal terms of service.

Their unofficial stance is that it is okay. But the company did not state this. A high-up employee said it was okay. I believe an official statement in a follow-up was that their terms of service have not changed, and the company officially would not back up the employee's statement (I think the employee was a lead designer for the Hearthstone team).

To reiterate again: Officially, Blizzard as a company has not said "go ahead and use X Y or Z, it's okay". The use of the software still violates ToS. The unofficial stance basically guarantees you that Blizzard won't go after you, since they've softly said that they won't go after it... but, to be very clear, they haven't made their position on the software official.

The reason I don't want to use it is because:
1) I don't know what the source code looks like. I don't know what data is being read on my computer aside from the game.
and
2) If Blizzard's stance does change for whatever reason - even if they give a grace period - I just don't want to deal with any false-positives, or problems.

This post was edited by Canadian_Man on Nov 17 2016 11:57pm
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