Ramp druid. Any version of control warrior.

It also gets "hard countered" by a potion that you don't get to choose 100% in a deck where you need to draw 1 card to even get a shot at said potion. Sounds like a real soft counter to me.

Sure I can se a world where Ramp druids excist, but control Warrior? That deck and all it's versions allready do and always will lose to Kazakus.


And that's not even with Brann which often will be coupled with Kazakus due to the slow nature of N'Zoth decks. Sounds like an excellent counter to me and the funny part is all the other potions with perhaps card draw are still excellent in a value based control game.

In what world does kazakus beat control warrior?


You remove the like 4 threats in kazakus deck save brawl for possible revive potion and stack armor while waiting for fatigue. I guess Mr J beats control warrior, but that's hardly because of kazakus.


Also,why are you considering nzoth decks slow? Curving out with high value death rattles would give you a very good chance to beat kazakus decks without nzoth lel. Only reason nzoth is bad is because your death rattles don't stop pirates from smashing you in the face.

This post was edited by DrLatBC on Feb 7 2017 04:51am

The very same world that they have always lost to Kazakus. The 1st is Reno Warlock, where the Warrrior is and has always been, very unfavored. The 2nd is Reno Mage, where the warrior is also is not the favorite. The 3rd being Priest, while I would have to ask good priest player, I'm still quite certain that the Priest is the favorite.
So enlighten us, in standard what are these "high value death rattles".

Carine? Harvest golem? Literally anything that forces inefficient aoe and inefficient single target removal?? Like over half of reno mage is either removal or aoe, neither of which are great against death rattles.

99% of the time kazakus deck deals with small minions via aoe. There are generally at least 3 aoes in every single reno deck. When you are forcing single target removal AND aoe with single minions or double aoe you are going to run them out of resources.

Hell you could probably build a disgusting nzoth hunter deck if the meta was slow, but again, no death rattles stop pirates from smashing you in the face.

Cairne has 4 attack for a 6-cost minion, which is very slow and hardly puts anyone on a clock, meaning removal can be used more greedily. Harvest golem is also a slow card which is not to hard to remove, itself has problems removing other things and wasnt even really used when N'Zoth was a thing. Proving that N'Zoth, with the exception of Hunters, is slow.

The problem is that there are hardly any minions that does that anymore. Those minions all come from "Wild mode". Not conviced whatsoever.

Rogue can make a nzoth deck that's also fast just fine.

Also harvest golem at WORST goes 1 for 1 and wastes their entire turn if a reno deck wants to remove it. Frostbolt /ping or shadow bolt/mortal coil.

This isn't exactly super easy to remove.

Rogues had that window just after Legue of Explorers, despite many minion based decks such as Secret Paladin and Zoo Warlock being extremely common, Raptor Rogue failed to leave any major mark on the meta. That was even when they had access to Healbot, now they don't. Which means that once, if ever they establish a board. They will slowly melt to the damage taken over the course of the match. Rogues will never do well playing minion based games because they don't have any healing. Common sense.

Plenty of cards and combinations can destroy it and still linger. But this is not even the point, that card is too slow to ever do anything.

This post was edited by nevah on Feb 7 2017 06:46am

New Top 100 Arena Rankings

Kripp the king once again

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20497687/top-100-arena-players-january-2017-2-9-2017

I'm mostly surprised that Kripperino only has 37 runs in Jan.