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Feb 6 2017 08:30pm
Quote (DrLatBC @ Feb 6 2017 06:07pm)
Destroys other control types.

Despite the fact that jade is a known weakness of reno
AND that mid range jade shaman is now a t1 deck.

You wat mate.


Neither of those are control.
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Feb 6 2017 09:34pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Feb 6 2017 09:30pm)
Neither of those are control.


Id argue jade druid is as much control as the class has ever seen... It really doesn't play that different than control warrior traditionally does.- it just includes ramp/jade mechanics that warrior don't have accessto.
It uses all premium removals.. often runs heals and armor. and leverages them to grant control over a game. the jade package is just what it is. Druid's primary mechanic is ramp - its a part of the 'green' archetype in general.. But still a ramp deck ends up playing out as either a heavy mid-range to control.

Jade isn't an archetype - just a mechanic.. We don't play deathrattle decks.. unless youre froggy.. 'pirate' decks are just agro.
Jade druid is extremely heavy midrange - control..

Quote (nevah @ Feb 6 2017 05:25pm)
The pirates does not eliminate much more than Kazakus. Hand buffing mechanics takes to long to develop regardless if you opponent is Pirate or Reno. Even when minions are somewhat strong they are not that hard to remove with the tons of aoe that introduced with this expansion. Hunters and Rogues does not have access to any healing and will just slowly melt versus most of the Reno builds, with the exception of perhaps priest. People don't seem to understand that Kazakus is just as much public enemy as the Pirates are. That card destroys all other control possibilites. With Pirates and Shaman nerfed, it is very very likely that the only decks viable until April will just be Dragon- and Reno decks, with some extra additions such as miracle etc.


Miracle is kind of a deceptive title too imo..
Rogue is an agro deck these days.. Equally as bad as 'pirate' warrior.. in many cases its far more all-in.
its crazy to think that one of the best 3 drops in the game - SI agent is seen as too slow of a card.. and now we run 2x questings to have a 'nuts' all in conceal play.

This post was edited by Hepzibah on Feb 6 2017 09:38pm
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Feb 6 2017 09:42pm
I don't see how it's anything like control tbh and nothing like Control Warrior. It's a combo midrange ramp deck.

This post was edited by Voyaging on Feb 6 2017 09:43pm
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Feb 6 2017 10:08pm
Quote (PSN_4EVA @ 6 Feb 2017 11:57)
because it changes the target and ignores the specifics of the card


which is dumb

but yea it was a 1/3 spellbeender
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Feb 6 2017 10:39pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Feb 6 2017 10:42pm)
I don't see how it's anything like control tbh and nothing like Control Warrior. It's a combo midrange ramp deck.


So take out the 'ramp' and the 'jade' shit out of druid.
Don't play Kuncthunfuckinretarddeck
what do you have left? a class with tons of removal.. like 1 mana destroy minion powerful removals. Heals.. armorups. The class power gives armor/means of trading..
How does the class not lean towards a control archetype? Its as control as the meta will allow currently..

or wait a minute.. am talking with the guy who thinks overwatch is 'efficiently developed'
Theres nothing efficient about overwatch.. its trash, and dumb to smoke.

e/ unrelated to the dumb meta talk...
Lost Secrets of Un’Goro ? this leaked reddit stuff true?

This post was edited by Hepzibah on Feb 6 2017 10:49pm
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Feb 6 2017 11:22pm
kripp is mad af right now

lost 3 straight in arena to rng after starting 3-0 and got criticized

now he's reviewing his play lmfao
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Feb 7 2017 02:01am
Quote (Voyaging @ Feb 6 2017 10:42pm)
I don't see how it's anything like control tbh and nothing like Control Warrior. It's a combo midrange ramp deck.


Midrange shaman isn't trying to kill you by turn 5 so it's basically control in this meta. They also run 2-3 heals 4 aoes and their minions are incredibly slow eventually building up tempo in the late game.
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Feb 7 2017 03:09am
Quote (DrLatBC @ 7 Feb 2017 01:07)
Destroys other control types.

Despite the fact that jade is a known weakness of reno
AND that mid range jade shaman is now a t1 deck.

You wat mate.


Yes, it's a widely known fact that other control decks cannot compete with Kazakus.
Renomages do struggle with Jade decks for sure but Jade Druid is only a 55% favorite versus the Reno Warlock. The t1 deck Jade Shaman is farmed by Renowarlock, stated by plenty of proplayers, espcially Sjow. So call it what you like, I can only se Reno Mages and Control Warriors, if that's a thing, having a really bad time vs. Jade.
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Feb 7 2017 03:20am
Quote (nevah @ Feb 7 2017 04:09am)
Yes, it's a widely known fact that other control decks cannot compete with Kazakus.
Renomages do struggle with Jade decks for sure but Jade Druid is only a 55% favorite versus the Reno Warlock. The t1 deck Jade Shaman is farmed by Renowarlock, stated by plenty of proplayers, espcially Sjow. So call it what you like, I can only se Reno Mages and Control Warriors, if that's a thing, having a really bad time vs. Jade.


More like a widely known fact that control decks greedy enough to beat kazakus get rekt by aggro..

This post was edited by DrLatBC on Feb 7 2017 03:21am
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Feb 7 2017 03:55am
Quote (DrLatBC @ 7 Feb 2017 11:20)
More like a widely known fact that control decks greedy enough to beat kazakus get rekt by aggro..


What control decks did you have in mind? One that comes to my mind is N'Zoth. All decks based on N'Zoth as it's primary win-condition gets hard countered by the Polymorph potion.
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