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Jan 21 2017 04:25am
Quote (DrLatBC @ Jan 21 2017 05:19am)
I mean I disagree entirely. So does blizzard considering their entire marketing strategy was "A moba like you've never seen before!!"

I mean aside from champs usually having 4 abilities there really isn't much similarity. Some of the maps don't even have the same win condition. Towers of doom for instance is a concept nothing like you've ever seen in lol.


They're both 5v5 top down click to move games in which there are two bases on opposite sides of a map with 3 lanes in which the objective is to kill your opponent's base by gaining xp by killing creeps in the lanes and your opponents champions with your autoattack and 4 abilities, one of which is an ultimate, and fulfilling objectives for special bonuses.

There may be alternative maps but the main game is the same.
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Jan 21 2017 04:28am
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They're both 5v5 top down click to move games in which there are two bases on opposite sides of a map with 3 lanes in which the objective is to kill your opponent's base by gaining xp by killing creeps in the lanes and your opponents champions with your autoattack and 4 abilities, one of which is an ultimate, and fulfilling objectives for special bonuses.

There may be alternative maps but the main game is the same.


That's just the genre....
I guess there's only 1 FPS, 1 Moba, 1 RTS, 1 RPG, 1 MMORPG and everything else just copied them, right?

If you've actually play multiple mobas you'd know that some of them feel COMPLETELY different.


This post was edited by FroggyG on Jan 21 2017 04:28am
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Quote (FroggyG @ Jan 21 2017 05:28am)
That's just the genre....
I guess there's only 1 FPS, 1 Moba, 1 RTS, 1 RPG, 1 MMORPG and everything else just copied them, right?

If you've actually play multiple mobas you'd know that some of them feel COMPLETELY different.


It's not just the genre it's the entire gameplay was carbon copied. The only reason you think it's the genre is because barely anyone creative has made a MOBA that's remotely different.

Look at Smite for an example of a somewhat unique MOBA.

I've played LoL, Dota 2, HotS, and others, and they're all absurdly similar in gameplay. Obviously there are differences but their similarities far outweigh them.

Just like the vast majority of MMOs are carbon copies of WoW. If you look at the history of MMOs there were whole hosts of wildly different MMOs pre-WoW and then WoW ruined everything and everyone copied them. There was RuneScape, Tibia, Ultima Online, etc. etc.

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Quote (Voyaging @ Jan 21 2017 05:25am)
They're both 5v5 top down click to move games in which there are two bases on opposite sides of a map with 3 lanes in which the objective is to kill your opponent's base by gaining xp by killing creeps in the lanes and your opponents champions with your autoattack and 4 abilities, one of which is an ultimate, and fulfilling objectives for special bonuses.

There may be alternative maps but the main game is the same.


You basically just described the moba genre in its entirety. The only exception being the top down click to move.

Hots jungle is entirely different than lol. The objectives have a MUCH higher priority to the point where it's basically the 100% focus of almost every map. They (usually) have 2 ultimates, can change their abilities, it's just a different game aside from the very basic moba aspects lol.
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Quote (DrLatBC @ Jan 21 2017 05:32am)
You basically just described the moba genre in its entirety. The only exception being the top down click to move.


Like I said, the only reason you think that is because every game in the MOBA genre is a ripoff. There are next to no creative ideas in the genre because they are now mostly designed by major gaming corporations who are interested in minimizing risk and doing what they know works. Maybe some day there will be a game other than Smite that tries something new.

Quote (DrLatBC @ Jan 21 2017 05:32am)
Hots jungle is entirely different than lol. The objectives have a MUCH higher priority to the point where it's basically the 100% focus of almost every map. They (usually) have 2 ultimates, can change their abilities, it's just a different game aside from the very basic moba aspects lol.


These are merely trivial differences in mechanics, not major differences in overarching game design. To say the differences are as significant as e.g. Hearthstone and Chronicle is absurd.
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Jan 21 2017 04:37am
Quote (Voyaging @ Jan 21 2017 04:31am)
It's not just the genre it's the entire gameplay was carbon copied. The only reason you think it's the genre is because barely anyone creative has made a MOBA that's remotely different.

Look at Smite for an example of a somewhat unique MOBA.

I've played LoL, Dota 2, HotS, and others, and they're all absurdly similar in gameplay. Obviously there are differences but their similarities far outweigh them.

Just like the vast majority of MMOs are carbon copies of WoW. If you look at the history of MMOs there were whole hosts of wildly different MMOs pre-WoW and then WoW ruined everything and everyone copied them. There was RuneScape, Tibia, Ultima Online, etc. etc.


HOTS focuses on fighting with small maps and easy ways to get around (mount)
LoL focuses on strategy over a large map

They may seem similar to a casual but they're played completely different and feel completely different

This post was edited by FroggyG on Jan 21 2017 04:37am
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Quote (Voyaging @ Jan 21 2017 05:35am)
Like I said, the only reason you think that is because every game in the MOBA genre is a ripoff. There are next to no creative ideas in the genre because they are now mostly designed by major gaming corporations who are interested in minimizing risk and doing what they know works. Maybe some day there will be a game other than Smite that tries something new.



These are merely trivial differences in mechanics, not major differences in overarching game design. To say the differences are as significant as e.g. Hearthstone and Chronicle is absurd.


We're just gonna have to agree to disagree. There are very few similarities in hots and lol if you don't count the fact that at its core it's a moba.
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Quote (Jaina @ 20 Jan 2017 22:12)
don't think the release date works like that ..


Oh wait msog was released in december, not november, my mistake. Then i'd guess march-ish.

This post was edited by DaveBDrian on Jan 21 2017 05:47am
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This brawl is hilarious :D


every game :D



This post was edited by GodBless on Jan 21 2017 10:02am
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Quote (GodBless @ 21 Jan 2017 10:56)
http://imgur.com/zNUaHt5.jpg


This brawl is hilarious :D


every game :D

http://imgur.com/RHmaSSw.jpg


Lel.

If I was the opponent i'd be like Wtf just happened..
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