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Aug 14 2015 08:29am
Quote (Sigzz @ Aug 14 2015 08:00am)
To summarize. Face decks are good. So good silencing a full board isn't even worth it half the time.

Balanced.

Control is going to fall more behind now. Just imagine all the turns a Zoo or a hunter hero power. Now imagine them having some cute extra burn mechanic from inspire helping them kill you


They have released basically nothing but slow cards. So no, this just isn't true. Almost no good aggro cards have been dropped, they clearly want to slow the meta down.
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Aug 14 2015 09:02am
Quote (DrLatBC @ Aug 14 2015 09:29am)
They have released basically nothing but slow cards. So no, this just isn't true. Almost no good aggro cards have been dropped, they clearly want to slow the meta down.


Want and will are not one and the same.

They also want the game to be fun!!!! Aka as per blizzard. Mongoloid aggro.

Even how ladder works favor fast lists and that won't change.

If our winrate are let's say within 5percent but control games are 10x longer. You'll climb quicker and more efficiently.
I m not talking about top 100 legend here. I'm talking for most normal gamers. So. Enjoy aggro. people like to win fast and easy.

This post was edited by Sigzz on Aug 14 2015 09:04am
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Aug 14 2015 09:11am
is everything about luck bro.

control decks,can easily destroy aggro decks.aggro decks cant destroy control decks.

give to me as a control warrior the best curve and give the hunter his best curve. hunter will get rekt every single time.

but,dont give me like alexastrasza,brawl,acolyte....bitch pls......!!!!!!!

/e. hunters with freezing highmanes actually is stronger tho.Face hunter isnt so strong as mid-range.

This post was edited by kalhmera on Aug 14 2015 09:32am
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Aug 14 2015 09:13am
Quote (kalhmera @ Aug 14 2015 10:11am)
is everything about luck bro.

control decks,can easily destroy aggro decks.aggro decks cant destroy control decks.

give to me as a control warrior the best curve and give the hunter his best curve. hunter will get rekt every single time.

but,dont give me like alexastrasza,brawl,acolyte....bitch pls......!!!!!!!


Ya but on average he will out curve you because of the curves distribution on average.

So. GG
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Aug 14 2015 09:34am
Quote (kalhmera @ Aug 14 2015 11:11am)
is everything about luck bro.

control decks,can easily destroy aggro decks.aggro decks cant destroy control decks.

give to me as a control warrior the best curve and give the hunter his best curve. hunter will get rekt every single time.

but,dont give me like alexastrasza,brawl,acolyte....bitch pls......!!!!!!!

/e. hunters with freezing highmanes actually is stronger tho.Face hunter isnt so strong as mid-range.


i run this type of hunter with loatheb and boom mid hunter is my fav i never liked aggro i wreck aggro decks with my mid hunter

/e do people think we will see a release date today?

This post was edited by PSN_4EVA on Aug 14 2015 09:38am
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Aug 14 2015 09:59am
Quote (Sigzz @ Aug 14 2015 10:02am)
Want and will are not one and the same.

They also want the game to be fun!!!! Aka as per blizzard. Mongoloid aggro.

Even how ladder works favor fast lists and that won't change.

If our winrate are let's say within 5percent but control games are 10x longer. You'll climb quicker and more efficiently.
I m not talking about top 100 legend here. I'm talking for most normal gamers. So. Enjoy aggro. people like to win fast and easy.


Lets assume the average aggro game is roughly 5 minutes. The average control (going higher than I actually think) is what 12.5 minutes? So Control is 2.5 times longer than aggro. Lets say on average you have about 10% better win rate throughout all possible decks with a control deck vs an aggro deck (55% win rate with aggro and 60.5% with control). That means After 100 games control nets 30 stars in 20.8 hours. Aggro nets 10 stars after 8.33 hours therefor it takes them 25 hours to net the same 30 stars that control takes. That means after only playing 100 games, control is actually better for gaining stars more quickly than aggro. Assuming no win streaks are involved. And 30 net stars starting from rank 20 0 stars is a final rank of rank 12 with 3 stars.
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Aug 14 2015 10:03am
Quote (Mikol @ Aug 14 2015 10:59am)
Lets assume the average aggro game is roughly 5 minutes. The average control (going higher than I actually think) is what 12.5 minutes? So Control is 2.5 times longer than aggro. Lets say on average you have about 10% better win rate throughout all possible decks with a control deck vs an aggro deck (55% win rate with aggro and 60.5% with control). That means After 100 games control nets 30 stars in 20.8 hours. Aggro nets 10 stars after 8.33 hours therefor it takes them 25 hours to net the same 30 stars that control takes. That means after only playing 100 games, control is actually better for gaining stars more quickly than aggro. Assuming no win streaks are involved. And 30 net stars starting from rank 20 0 stars is a final rank of rank 12 with 3 stars.


Too many flaws in your example though.
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Aug 14 2015 10:04am
Quote (Sigzz @ Aug 14 2015 11:03am)
Too many flaws in your example though.


Point them out and i'll provide counter proof.
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Aug 14 2015 10:12am
Quote (Mikol @ Aug 14 2015 11:04am)
Point them out and i'll provide counter proof.


Your math seems off, for one.
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Aug 14 2015 10:14am
Quote (Sigzz @ Aug 14 2015 11:12am)
Your math seems off, for one.


I have a masters in Mathematics, I hope my math isn't off lol :lol:

But i'm not one to say that it's impossible that my math is off. Just let me know what you think is wrong and I'll fix it.


EDIT: I actually think you are right lol let me check.

This post was edited by Mikol on Aug 14 2015 10:16am
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