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Aug 17 2015 05:34pm
Quote (DrLatBC @ Aug 17 2015 03:30pm)
No it doesn't mean your idea is bad. It simply means the card would become bad. Your idea is an idea, not good nor bad. If you limit grim patron to 3 attack patrons getting charge only + gimping frothing you will make that deck trash. 90% of that decks winning plays just became a LOT less powerful, you aren't nerfing grim, you're trying to literally gut it out of existence. Either try to nerf grim or try to nerf frothing, don't pseudo-nerf both of grims win conditions and act like you aren't trying to gut the living fuck out of it.


The deck as it is right now needs to be heavily handicapped.
They could change Frothing to "any damage dealt to this minion gives +2 attack" rather than +1 attack for any minion.
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Aug 17 2015 05:36pm
Quote (FroggyG @ Aug 17 2015 06:34pm)
The deck as it is right now needs to be heavily handicapped.
They could change Frothing to "any damage dealt to this minion gives +2 attack" rather than +1 attack for any minion.


This is more reasonable nerf. But in nerfing warsong the way he is trying to, you are LITERALLY almost removing both of grims win conditions.

The frothing are the problem imo, definitely not grim or warsong.

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Expecting too much beats staying on a games sf to whine like a bitch 24/7.

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Aug 17 2015 06:12pm
Quote (DrLatBC @ Aug 17 2015 03:36pm)
This is more reasonable nerf. But in nerfing warsong the way he is trying to, you are LITERALLY almost removing both of grims win conditions.

The frothing are the problem imo, definitely not grim or warsong.


Warsong is still ridiculous.
OTK just shouldn't be possible that easily.

This post was edited by FroggyG on Aug 17 2015 06:13pm
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Aug 17 2015 06:20pm
Quote (FroggyG @ Aug 17 2015 07:12pm)
Warsong is still ridiculous.
OTK just shouldn't be possible that easily.



Patron very rarely wins via otk. If they do you are likely not paying any attention to the number of minions on your side of the board or are awful at math
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Aug 17 2015 06:26pm
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Patron very rarely wins via otk. If they do you are likely not paying any attention to the number of minions on your side of the board or are awful at math


It's actually very easy to OTK on an empty board if you have both frothing.

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Aug 17 2015 06:44pm
Quote (FroggyG @ Aug 17 2015 07:26pm)
It's actually very easy to OTK on an empty board if you have both frothing.



No it's not. I play patron daily in legend and it isn't that simple to otk frothing on an empty board. You need enemy minions to activate ghouls and by the time you've drawn both whirlwinds (assuming you didn't use them to draw with acolyte or to stay alive), you would need deaths bite with only one charge (assuming that is not used up early or harrisoned), and you also need most if not all of these cards discounted with thaurissan (assuming you had the necessary cards in hand and got off the battle rages to draw them when you play thaurissan). Quit talking about shit that you literally know nothing about.

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Aug 17 2015 06:50pm
Quote (xFoRsaKeNx @ Aug 17 2015 08:44pm)
No it's not. I play patron daily in legend and it isn't that simple to otk frothing on an empty board. You need enemy minions to activate ghouls and by the time you've drawn both whirlwinds (assuming you didn't use them to draw with acolyte or to stay alive), you would need deaths bite with only one charge (assuming that is not used up early or harrisoned), and you also need most if not all of these cards discounted with thaurissan (assuming you had the necessary cards in hand and got off the battle rages to draw them when you play thaurissan). Quit talking about shit that you literally know nothing about.



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Aug 17 2015 06:57pm
Quote (x]FoRsaKeNx @ Aug 17 2015 04:44pm)
No it's not. I play patron daily in legend and it isn't that simple to otk frothing on an empty board. You need enemy minions to activate ghouls and by the time you've drawn both whirlwinds (assuming you didn't use them to draw with acolyte or to stay alive), you would need deaths bite with only one charge (assuming that is not used up early or harrisoned), and you also need most if not all of these cards discounted with thaurissan (assuming you had the necessary cards in hand and got off the battle rages to draw them when you play thaurissan). Quit talking about shit that you literally know nothing about.


Happened to me today. Healed to 30 with Lay on Hands on an empty board and got OTKd turn 10.
You can be more patient against a control deck and get max Thaurissan value.

This post was edited by FroggyG on Aug 17 2015 07:00pm
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Aug 17 2015 07:07pm
Quote (FroggyG @ Aug 17 2015 07:57pm)
Happened to me today. Healed to 30 with Lay on Hands on an empty board and got OTKd turn 10.
You can be more patient against a control deck and get max Thaurissan value.



Good for you. It happening to you doesn't mean that it is easy to pull off like you claimed. It requires a myriad of other conditionals that very rarely happen. I never claimed that it doesn't happen, I claimed that it was rare. As a paladin, if you didn't force out any whirlwind effects by turn 10, that's more than likely on you and not because it is 'easy to pull off'.

You say some of the dumbest and most inaccurate shit out of anyone in this entire forum (and elsewhere), and I'm sick of it.

Please refer to:

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This post was edited by x]FoRsaKeN[x on Aug 17 2015 07:11pm
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Aug 17 2015 07:13pm
Quote (x]FoRsaKeNx @ Aug 17 2015 05:07pm)
Good for you. It happening to you doesn't mean that it is easy to pull off like you claimed. It requires a myriad of other conditionals that very rarely happen. I never claimed that it doesn't happen, I claimed that it was rare. As a paladin, if you didn't force out any whirlwind effects by turn 10, that's more than likely on you and not because it is 'easy to pull off'.

You say some of the dumbest and most inaccurate shit out of anyone in this entire forum (and elsewhere), and I'm sick of it.

Please refer to:


I don't know, flaming people is pretty dumb to me so I would say that it's actually you that says the dumbest things.

This post was edited by FroggyG on Aug 17 2015 07:13pm
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