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Apr 24 2015 10:16am
Quote (DrLatBC @ Apr 24 2015 11:15am)
Oh okay, so hypothetical things you don't actually have any idea about. Got it. Lol


Look, if you don't want to master the deck then idc but don't act like the highest tier of players playing it aren't significantly better than you and the others who claim the deck is easy
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Apr 24 2015 10:17am
Quote (Voyaging @ Apr 24 2015 11:16am)
Look, if you don't want to master the deck then idc but don't act like the highest tier of players playing it aren't significantly better than you and the others who claim the deck is easy


They do play it better, but for numerous reasons that don't involve "complicated math".
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Apr 24 2015 10:19am
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Psssst. Much like poker, the hard part isn't the math. The hard part in poker is reading your opponent. All of them, from the good to the bad, know the math already.


I'm guessing you haven't played much competitive poker. The math is the hard part, by far. "Reading your opponent" is almost strictly math, by putting your opponent on a range after taking into account their previous behavior. Actually using "tells" might give you maybe a 1-2% edge which is only relevant at the very highest level of play.

You can't "know the math already" it has to be calculated in each individual situation lol. For fucks sake seriously just stop talking about shit you don't know

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They do play it better, but for numerous reasons that don't involve "complicated math".


Every decision in the game is purely mathematical, either the math is good or it isn't.

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Apr 24 2015 10:20am
Quote (Voyaging @ Apr 24 2015 11:19am)
I'm guessing you haven't played much competitive poker. The math is the hard part, by far. "Reading your opponent" is almost strictly math, by putting your opponent on a range after taking into account their previous behavior. Actually using "tells" might give you maybe a 1-2% edge which is only relevant at the very highest level of play.

You can't "know the math already" it has to be calculated in each individual situation lol. For fucks sake seriously just stop talking about shit you don't know


You think reading your opps actions and judging what they have is math? And not reading people? Okay I'm done with this episode of "are you smarter than a fifth grader". Someone else can enjoy these luls.
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Apr 24 2015 10:22am
Quote (DrLatBC @ Apr 24 2015 11:20am)
You think reading your opps actions and judging what they have is math? And not reading people? Okay I'm done with this episode of "are you smarter than a fifth grader". Someone else can enjoy these luls.


Try reading my whole post next time kiddo
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Apr 24 2015 10:23am
Quote (Voyaging @ Apr 24 2015 11:22am)
Try reading my whole post next time kiddo


Try not frothing at the mouth when literally everyone, except you, knows you're incorrect. :3

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Try not frothing at the mouth when literally everyone, except you, knows you're incorrect. :3


aight m8 freeze mage is ezmode go win some tournaments now :thumbsup:

but ya btw reading your opps actions and judging what they have is primarily math, say 90-95% at least, involving analyzing their previous play and putting them on a range, this is one of the first skills you learn when you learn competitive poker, reading tells e.g. body language or mannerisms is an extremely small aspect only relevant at the highest (and lowest) level of play

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Apr 24 2015 10:28am
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aight m8 freeze mage is ezmode go win some tournaments now :thumbsup:


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Apr 24 2015 10:34am
Let's put it this way. A computer could theoretically be better than any human player at hearthstone (but coding it would be absurdly difficult, the game is orders of magnitude more complex than chess for example, and human players are still superior to the best Go computers).

What do computers do better than humans? Calculations.
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Apr 24 2015 10:35am
Quote (Voyaging @ Apr 24 2015 11:34am)
Let's put it this way. A computer could theoretically be better than any human player at hearthstone (but coding it would be absurdly difficult, the game is orders of magnitude more complex than chess for example, and human players are still superior to the best Go computers).

What do computers do better than humans? Calculations.


So... Opinions followed by more opinions = you are right. :3

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