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Jul 13 2017 08:07pm
Quote (DrLatBC @ Jul 13 2017 04:14pm)
Incorrect.

Taunt warriors very low attack minions can't pressure out the Rogue before he completes quest then vanishes.

Then it's difficult to play enough taunts per turn to stop a constant stream of 5/5s who almost can always trade efficiently with your taunts.




You clearly don't understand the deck you're defending lol.


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Ding ding ding. We have a winner!


vanish is a good move. not always available but ya at that point, that's how you combat a quest warrior.

oh wait, it's a quest warrior, so i'd be giving him lower cost taunt back to finish quest quicker.
wait.... brawl???? fuck my minions?
wait.... brawl???? fuckkkkkk

ya, no way can a quest warrior clear a board vs rogue and throw more taunt out with 8dmg+ each turn. no possible way ever never ever never ever.
even without 2x brawl, warriors have plenty of clear options. with the taunt and armor boost to defend against rogue deck.
if you think quest warrior is lacking, you're smoking things better than i. and trust me that is hard to do
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Jul 13 2017 09:34pm
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vanish is a good move. not always available but ya at that point, that's how you combat a quest warrior.

oh wait, it's a quest warrior, so i'd be giving him lower cost taunt back to finish quest quicker.
wait.... brawl???? fuck my minions?
wait.... brawl???? fuckkkkkk

ya, no way can a quest warrior clear a board vs rogue and throw more taunt out with 8dmg+ each turn. no possible way ever never ever never ever.
even without 2x brawl, warriors have plenty of clear options. with the taunt and armor boost to defend against rogue deck.
if you think quest warrior is lacking, you're smoking things better than i. and trust me that is hard to do


I mean you say these things... But the statistics prove taunt warrior loses to quest rogue.

I do hope you realize how irrelevant your opinion is when the stats straight up say you're wrong. Lel you obviously played the match up like garbage if you think it was good for warrior.

/e even on tempo storm quest rogue has a positive match up vs taunt warrior. Like you do realize your opinion isn't always gonna be right, right?

This post was edited by DrLatBC on Jul 13 2017 09:36pm
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Jul 13 2017 09:50pm
Quote (DrLatBC @ Jul 13 2017 10:34pm)
I mean you say these things... But the statistics prove taunt warrior loses to quest rogue.

I do hope you realize how irrelevant your opinion is when the stats straight up say you're wrong. Lel

/e even on tempo storm quest rogue has a positive match up vs taunt warrior. Like you do realize your opinion isn't always gonna be right, right?


are these the same statistics that say quest rogue has the highest buff per card?
when you're rocking 1/1's and 1/2's. you better hope you can buff.

2x vanish isn't the best idea for rogue either, just another point. it was rarer to draw, which you hoped for. it cost too much mana when you really just want to throw cards out that help complete quest. you could not rely on always drawing this card. especially while hoping you also had preparation and a reason to use both key spell cards before quest completion.

quest warriors have dragged me out to 0 cards a few times this season. along with 8dmg + taunt to block charge + brawls + 3dmg to damaged minions + weapon from quest. rogue minions were easily destroyed with +1dmg spells and/or minions early off as well.
they were pretty solid this season when played correctly. i am actually debating crafting this quest just for kicks.


on a different note. although i do not agree that the quest was changed before expansion. after seeing new cards with upcoming expansion... i can see why. giving minions the ability to heal your hero by dmg dealt. not even a mage could stop the rogue at that point.
i'm not trying to steer any reply out of relevance. i am willing to continue debating quest rogue prior upcoming expansion if there is reason. i do not see one with quest warrior being your champion here.
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Jul 13 2017 11:22pm
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are these the same statistics that say quest rogue has the highest buff per card?
when you're rocking 1/1's and 1/2's. you better hope you can buff.

2x vanish isn't the best idea for rogue either, just another point. it was rarer to draw, which you hoped for. it cost too much mana when you really just want to throw cards out that help complete quest. you could not rely on always drawing this card. especially while hoping you also had preparation and a reason to use both key spell cards before quest completion.

quest warriors have dragged me out to 0 cards a few times this season. along with 8dmg + taunt to block charge + brawls + 3dmg to damaged minions + weapon from quest. rogue minions were easily destroyed with +1dmg spells and/or minions early off as well.
they were pretty solid this season when played correctly. i am actually debating crafting this quest just for kicks.


on a different note. although i do not agree that the quest was changed before expansion. after seeing new cards with upcoming expansion... i can see why. giving minions the ability to heal your hero by dmg dealt. not even a mage could stop the rogue at that point.
i'm not trying to steer any reply out of relevance. i am willing to continue debating quest rogue prior upcoming expansion if there is reason. i do not see one with quest warrior being your champion here.


I mean again... It's literally your opinion vs cold hard facts. There is actually nothing you could say. Like WOAH a taunt warrior beat you twice? Better throw these hundreds of sample games out the window.

Me favorite part is that your opinion is in the EXTREME minority. :rofl: Good shit, pal. Usually people need others backing their bad opinions to believe them this hard.

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Quote (DrLatBC @ Jul 14 2017 12:22am)
I mean again... It's literally your opinion vs cold hard facts. There is actually nothing you could say. Like WOAH a taunt warrior beat you twice? Better throw these hundreds of sample games out the window.

Me favorite part is that your opinion is in the EXTREME minority. :rofl: Good shit, pal. Usually people need others backing their bad opinions to believe them this hard.


you are not giving me fact. you are the one spouting nothing but opinion. then telling me it's my opinion that's worthless.
what cold hard facts have you brought to the table here? this guy you watch on stream said so. good shit.

you listed a class that has a fair match-up vs the quest rogue. you used other peoples opinions to do this, but you are still wrong. i really am starting to wonder if you even play this game yourself.
above examples are the hard fact of this. do you have anything to debate this with? or are you going to follow the hype train and mindlessly spout that your opinion is a fact itself?
cards friend. quest warrior has plenty of spells to clear board. this is fact. quest warrior also has the taunt and armor boosting to delay turns until brawl is drawn.

with whirlwind, you can easy clean the crap minions before quest. as well as beefing your armor and/or activating minions abilities.
with brawl you can clean the board twice in a game.
with sleep with the fishes, you can also get a good board clear off.
shield slam killing off any individual minions.
8dmg quest each turn.

don't see how quest warriors have it rough. at all. how can you not utilize this deck?
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Jul 14 2017 07:28am
Quote (DrLatBC @ Jul 14 2017 01:22am)
I mean again... It's literally your opinion vs cold hard facts. There is actually nothing you could say. Like WOAH a taunt warrior beat you twice? Better throw these hundreds of sample games out the window.

Me favorite part is that your opinion is in the EXTREME minority. :rofl: Good shit, pal. Usually people need others backing their bad opinions to believe them this hard.


Cold hard facts say everyone is entitled to have an opinion

you can also choose to ignore the opinion instead of trying to change someone's mind on a subject they clearly won't budge on

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Jul 14 2017 08:36am
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you are not giving me fact. you are the one spouting nothing but opinion. then telling me it's my opinion that's worthless.
what cold hard facts have you brought to the table here? this guy you watch on stream said so. good shit.

you listed a class that has a fair match-up vs the quest rogue. you used other peoples opinions to do this, but you are still wrong. i really am starting to wonder if you even play this game yourself.
above examples are the hard fact of this. do you have anything to debate this with? or are you going to follow the hype train and mindlessly spout that your opinion is a fact itself?
cards friend. quest warrior has plenty of spells to clear board. this is fact. quest warrior also has the taunt and armor boosting to delay turns until brawl is drawn.

with whirlwind, you can easy clean the crap minions before quest. as well as beefing your armor and/or activating minions abilities.
with brawl you can clean the board twice in a game.
with sleep with the fishes, you can also get a good board clear off.
shield slam killing off any individual minions.
8dmg quest each turn.

don't see how quest warriors have it rough. at all. how can you not utilize this deck?


What cold hard facts...


The statistics that say quest rogue wins more than it loses against taunt warrior, but keep going this is actually adorable.

Quote (Asexual @ Jul 14 2017 08:28am)
Cold hard facts say everyone is entitled to have an opinion

you can also choose to ignore the opinion instead of trying to change someone's mind on a subject they clearly won't budge on

Protips 101


I hate this bullshit saying. People say any stupid shit then act like people can't call them stupid because it's an opinion. In my opinion mars is closer to the earth than the moon, Mars didn't just move closer... Did it?

/e also, I'm not exactly putting a ton of effort into my 1-2 sentence replies at this point. :p I'm curious just how delusional he is.

This post was edited by DrLatBC on Jul 14 2017 08:39am
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Jul 14 2017 08:42am
Quote (DrLatBC @ Jul 14 2017 09:36am)
What cold hard facts...


The statistics that say quest rogue wins more than it loses against taunt warrior, but keep going this is actually adorable.



I hate this bullshit saying. People say any stupid shit then act like people can't call them stupid because it's an opinion. In my opinion mars is closer to the earth than the moon, Mars didn't just move closer... Did it?

/e also, I'm not exactly putting a ton of effort into my 1-2 sentence replies at this point. :p I'm curious just how delusional he is.


all you're doing is reading from other peoples effort. not only do i still wonder if you even play this game. now i wonder if you will ever have an original thought.
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Jul 14 2017 08:45am
Quote (tagged4nothing @ Jul 14 2017 09:42am)
all you're doing is reading from other peoples effort. not only do i still wonder if you even play this game. now i wonder if you will ever have an original thought.


Woah man.

What a crazy thought, let people who play this game 8 hours a day figure out match ups and shit i dont have time for.
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Jul 14 2017 02:20pm
Quote (tagged4nothing @ Jul 14 2017 08:42am)
all you're doing is reading from other peoples effort.


That's what gathering data is...
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