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Feb 22 2017 06:40am
Quote (Canadian_Man @ 22 Feb 2017 07:05)
I quit Hearthstone about 1 week ago.

Have every card in the game. Lots of gold saved up. Never booting the game up ever again.

Reasons:
- price
- grind if you don't pay
- lack of fun in ladder and in non-ladder
- lack of imagination in cards
- lack of time spent playing the game for fun vs. just grinding for gold or grinding for rank without having fun
- if you try 'just having fun', the game still sucks
- you'll wait forever for the next expansion that ties the game together
- Blizzard will nerf cards and come out with bullshit, they're coasting
- Any potential combos that come out are removed (Blizz has stated officially that they think OTK decks and most combos are frustrating to players, which is why they removed the only ones that existed)
- Blizz doesn't have any intention of supporting Wild mode, just current rotation cards

Game has been out for how long? How much has changed since its original release? Brawls, monthly rewards for ladder, and new expansions that haven't added anything interesting into the game. It's all just "Oh look this new card adds + attack to a minion in my hand! The old one made exploding mini bots!" Nothing interesting about this game.

I actually uninstalled all grind games tho. Any game that requires any extra amount of $$$ or time spent to actually play the game as intended is a waste.


they key thing he mentions here
that he did play long enough and/or put enough money in to get all the cards
its a good game
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Feb 22 2017 10:20am
Quote (JVMorrow @ Feb 22 2017 08:40am)
they key thing he mentions here
that he did play long enough and/or put enough money in to get all the cards
its a good game


No, let me rephrase it. The game was good for the first few expansions until Blizzard starting to destroy the game with greed (more money and less fun because RNG fucks you in the ass).
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Feb 22 2017 11:24am
I think you're still at the point where your biggest priority is to just play the game more and learn the cards and mechanics.
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Feb 22 2017 12:37pm
Quote (Mastersam93 @ Feb 22 2017 01:24pm)
I think you're still at the point where your biggest priority is to just play the game more and learn the cards and mechanics.


Yah that's my.main goal right now.
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Feb 22 2017 01:01pm
Quote (Canadian_Man @ Feb 22 2017 07:05am)
I quit Hearthstone about 1 week ago.

Have every card in the game. Lots of gold saved up. Never booting the game up ever again.

Reasons:
- price
- grind if you don't pay
- lack of fun in ladder and in non-ladder
- lack of imagination in cards
- lack of time spent playing the game for fun vs. just grinding for gold or grinding for rank without having fun
- if you try 'just having fun', the game still sucks
- you'll wait forever for the next expansion that ties the game together
- Blizzard will nerf cards and come out with bullshit, they're coasting
- Any potential combos that come out are removed (Blizz has stated officially that they think OTK decks and most combos are frustrating to players, which is why they removed the only ones that existed)
- Blizz doesn't have any intention of supporting Wild mode, just current rotation cards

Game has been out for how long? How much has changed since its original release? Brawls, monthly rewards for ladder, and new expansions that haven't added anything interesting into the game. It's all just "Oh look this new card adds + attack to a minion in my hand! The old one made exploding mini bots!" Nothing interesting about this game.

I actually uninstalled all grind games tho. Any game that requires any extra amount of $$$ or time spent to actually play the game as intended is a waste.



Looks like snakes and ladders for this man from now on.

Oh wait... Ladder rng... Might get fucked in the ass.
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Feb 22 2017 01:04pm
About to lay down the best advice btw.... ;

Do what makes you happy. If you enjoy the game now, then play it. If you don't, then don't.

Youre not always going to get the same enjoyment from these things.. Everyone changes.

1/2 the people complaining about the game didnt think twice about spending the money they did at the time.

And so if your opinion changes down the road, it is what it is.

Enjoy while you can.

This post was edited by Hepzibah on Feb 22 2017 01:06pm
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Feb 22 2017 01:41pm
I'm one of the guys who left the game but I'll come back sometime soon :santa:

edit: maybe not soon

This post was edited by GriffithSenpai on Feb 22 2017 01:41pm
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Feb 22 2017 01:45pm
Quote (Hepzibah @ Feb 22 2017 03:04pm)
About to lay down the best advice btw.... ;

Do what makes you happy. If you enjoy the game now, then play it. If you don't, then don't.

Youre not always going to get the same enjoyment from these things.. Everyone changes.

1/2 the people complaining about the game didnt think twice about spending the money they did at the time.

And so if your opinion changes down the road, it is what it is.

Enjoy while you can.


Yah I just enjoy it now. Prob best phone game I have got.
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Feb 22 2017 05:36pm
Quote (Hepzibah @ Feb 22 2017 12:04pm)
About to lay down the best advice btw.... ;
Do what makes you happy. If you enjoy the game now, then play it. If you don't, then don't.
Youre not always going to get the same enjoyment from these things.. Everyone changes.
1/2 the people complaining about the game didnt think twice about spending the money they did at the time.
And so if your opinion changes down the road, it is what it is.
Enjoy while you can.


That's what ppl on my 600-lb life say. The food was worth it, it makes me happy, bla bla. If I did what makes me happy and feel good within a 3 month span I'd have 6 children by now.

Happiness can be measured. If what makes you happy now matters 1, 3, 5, 10 years from now, then that activity is probably of higher value, since it may have cumulative return. For example, learning piano may have a 20% immediate relaxation return, while 80% of the time put in may not provide an immediate return of relaxation (cumulative build-up that can be measured long-term as a contributor to happiness, but not as much short-term). A game doesn't have any cumulative return of happiness, it is just a source of an immediate return of relaxation. As soon as you decide to quit a game that involves grinding, the time spent grinding was just a complete waste. That puts the value of a grind-based game pretty low. Grinding is not relaxation, it is obsession. It is virtualized work that is designed to be easy for the brain, and release dopamine at statistically ranged predefined intervals. Playing a grind game is like choosing to sleep on cement.

In terms of mental health, the brain doesn't just reset every day. Just like there's sleep debt, stressors also are cumulative. Relaxation is to stress as sleep is to fatigue.

If you are grinding 50% of the time you play Hearthstone, I would argue that you are spending 50% of your relaxation time doing something distinctly different from relaxing. You are tricking your brain into thinking that the grind time is being stored away for long-term return, but there is no long-term return to tap into later. You could even say you are building a "relaxation debt", much like not sleeping enough builds a sleep debt. That is, if you need 2 hours of relaxation a day, but only 1 hour of the 2 hours spent relaxing provides adequate relaxation, then you are stressing yourself out (likewise, if you need 2 hours of relaxation, and you choose piano for the full 2 hours, you may not get adequate relaxation time). Even though 100% of the time spent on a game doesn't help you out 10 years down the line, a non-grind game still provides relaxation that is proportionate to the time spent (1:1). A grind game divides your time into the categories of relaxation, or grinding (x:y).

This post was edited by Canadian_Man on Feb 22 2017 06:03pm
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Feb 22 2017 05:51pm
Quote (Canadian_Man @ 22 Feb 2017 18:36)
If you are grinding 50% of the time you play Hearthstone, I would argue that you are spending 50% of your relaxation time doing something distinctly different from relaxing.


that's why sometimes I play ranked and I also often just do dailies / play at rank 20 in wild.. Because I want to relax and don't want anything stressful because let's be honest.. if you play to climb the ladder, it can be extremely frustrating and tilting.
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